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- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:06:00 PST
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- From: Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
- Subject: Re: Logical Partitions/Physical Partitions
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- On Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:39:17 CST,
- David E Boyes <dboyes@IS.RICE.EDU> said:
- > LPARs are a lot easier to tune, I'll admit. I dearly wish for an
- > absolute CPU cap in VM.
-
- This seemingly small missing feature in VM is a show stopper for many
- shops. When we ran MVS under VM it was just not possible to stop MVS
- from chewing up much more of the CPU than management wanted MVS to
- get, and still guarantee that MVS got a certain minimum percentage.
- Performance of both MVS and the CMS workload was often disastrous.
- Now, with LPAR, MVS and VM each have a cpu cap. The machine normally
- runs pegged, but if MVS isn't using all of it's share, it's available
- to VM, and vice versa, which is what most shops would want. And we
- no longer have the problem of one system not being able to get enough
- CPU time because the other system is very busy. And we don't have to
- take down MVS when the VM syspgmr wants to work on VM.
-
- BTW, while I'm generally impressed with VM's preferred machine
- recovery (or whatever it's called), keep in mind that except for
- full-pack minidisks, virtual devices are lost when VM rolls over.
-
- I agree completely with Michael Stein's assessment of why production
- MVS under VM is not appropriate. If you have to have a VM system
- anyway, then the test MVS system most likely makes more sense under VM
- than LPAR. But it is simply not possible to convince me that VM makes
- sense to any shop which is using it only to run guest OS's which can
- run under LPAR.
-
- As much as I lament the fact that MVS has no future, I believe that
- except at universities, VM will be dead long before MVS.
-
- Interesting side comment... One of our new student consultants (who
- says he loves unix) told me yesterday that unix will die. I asked him
- what would replace it, and he replied "Windows NT". So I guess there
- _is_ something worse than an all-unix future.
-
-
- (Ducking behind my bunker...)
-
- Leonard D. Woren Senior MVS Systems Programmer
- <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET> <LDW@MVSA.USC.EDU> Disclaimer???
- University of Southern California What would be the point?
-
- "The potential to save money always speaks louder than good sense."
- -- Chuck Reid, of the University of Western Ontario, Canada
-