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- From: J Scott Berg <ALHY@SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
- Subject: Re: contributions
- In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat,
- 02 Jan 93 11:34:06 -1000."
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- In a message of Sat, 02 Jan 93 11:34:06 -1000 Len Howard writes:
- > Scott, your position is not only common but admirable. The only
- > problem is that it is unrealistic. We exist in the world. Insurance
- > payments must be made on the church, and health insurance for the
- > clergy and staff, utility bills have to be paid, the organist paid,
- > the rector's car paid for, and on and on. I can assure you from
- > experience on the vestry, that money (or lack of it) is one of the
- > major concerns of the church. We do not discuss who gives what, in
- > fact the only figure I know is what I give, and what the average gift
- > and the highest gift is. This comes from the computer printout. All
- > else is privileged information known only to the stewardship chairman,
- > the treasurer and the rector. But they MUST be aware of this. Often
- > the first sign a rector gets that a family is having some sort of
- > trouble is that they stop paying their pledge on Sunday. Nobody is
- > denied care because they don't pay, either. But you have to become a
- > bit more realistic in your approach to stewardship.
-
- I agree with most of what you've said here, Len. I was not trying to
- say that we shouldn't donate to the Church for things that we expect
- to benefit from. I doubt that any good pastor would deny a parishoner
- help merely because of their prior donation habits. (Realistically,
- in fact, such behavior would probably promote a viscious cycle of
- declining donations). However, a previous poster pointed out an
- example of a pastor that, while he didn't necessarily deny anyone
- help, did treat parishoners differently based on their giving habits.
-
- What I don't see is the need to have a record of what individuals
- donate. While your example is a good one, there are other ways to
- find out that a family is in trouble, and finding out by their
- donation habits strikes me as somewhat "sneaky." It seems that if the
- parish needs more money to meet it's needs, that can be found out from
- statistical information without having to keep track of who gives
- what.
-
- Realistically, I know from being a treasurer of a couple of
- organizations that despite handling lots of checks, you do begin to
- recognize individuals. It can't really be helped. However, it seems
- like that doesn't mean that you can say "since we can't keep
- individuals donation amounts private, why bother trying."
-
- I would just prefer that nobody knows how much I donate except me and
- God.
-
- -Scott Berg
-
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