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- From: J Scott Berg <ALHY@SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
- Subject: Re: contributions
- In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu,
- 31 Dec 92 20:16:36 GMT." <F4B880D340A36B9F@SCS.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
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- In a message of Thu, 31 Dec 92 20:16:36 GMT Fred Rump from home writes:
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- > I'm so glad to see this. Way back in the early seventies the pastor of Our
- > Lady of Calvary church here in Phila, told me that he wanted a 10 year
- > contribution history in his computer records. I asked him why. His answer was
- > that if any member ever comes to him for help, he will not even ask why if he
- > can see that this person helped the parish on a regular basis over time. He
- > said he doesn't think he has the right to ask why the need for help when that
- > person never asked him to explain what he was donating money for.
- >
- > That parish away back then started inculcating this philosophy of help to its
- > over 3000 families. Msgr Wierzalis has gone to his reward and two pastors hav
- > e
- > followed him but there is still no tuition for the school of 1200 kids. The
- > finance committee gets a monthly printout of parents with kids in school who
- > did not meet the $13/wk avg that the parish expects from each family in order
- > to meet all of its financial needs. So for 13 bucks a week you could have 5
- > kids in school. Obviously not every family donates $700/yr but the concept of
- > joint responsibility has been planted. Some give more some give less but as a
- > group they manage just like the church of old before tuition and high diocesa
- > n
- > finance.
- >
-
- I personally find these sorts of practices objectionable. It seems to
- go directly against the principle that you should not give based on
- the benefits/praise that you expect to get from those around you.
- Jesus seems to spend a lot of time picking on the Pharasees because
- they do things that are inherently good for the praise that they will
- get from those who see them doing it.
-
- I always expected that if I write a check and put it in the collection
- basket, somebody just stamps that back with an endorsement and
- deposits it. I would just assume that the parish council, my pastor,
- and anyone else had no idea how much I gave. I don't want the way
- they treat me to be based upon how much I donate. I want to donate
- out of love of God and concern for the Church and others, not based
- upon how I am treated or what I expect to get back from the Church.
-
- I have no idea if my parish does this sort of stuff. If they do, I
- will stop using checks as well as registering my objections...
-
- Anyhow, just more of my opinions. Peace and God bless
-
- -Scott Berg
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