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- Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
- Date: Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 16:21:23 EST
- From: Marty Helgesen <MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
- Message-ID: <92357.162123MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
- Newsgroups: bit.listserv.catholic
- Subject: Re: Operation Rescue
- References: <92356.233111MNHCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
- <o3T7VB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us>
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- In article <o3T7VB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us>,
- elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) says:
- >
- <Stuff deleted>
- >> The abolitionists who operated the Underground Railroad broke the
- >> fugitive slave laws, and probably a bunch of other laws, too.
- >> Were they wrong to do so?
- >>
- >
- >Well, Marty, I'll answer your baiting question with another: was John Brown
- >right to commit acts of violence and to kill to further the abolitionist cause?
- >
- >Have you read any of my posts? I thought I had made it clear that I object to
- >Operation Rescue's use of violence to further their cause. I apologize that I
- >have not made that clearer to you, since you would not be trying to bait me
- >with such comparisons if you understood my position.
- >
- >
- >
- >|Edward J. Branley elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
- >|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA +1-504-455-5087|
-
- I have read some of your posts but not all of them. I am
- sorry if I misunderstood your position.
-
- I have not studied Operation Rescue in detail. What I have read
- about it discussed non-violent blocking of access to abortion
- chambers--"putting their bodies between the killers and the
- intended victims" as OR spokesmen put it.
-
- John Brown was wrong to kill people who were pro-choice on slavery.
- (Slavery was a matter of free choice. No white man who was personally
- opposed to slavery was required to own slaves.) In fact, I have used
- the Pottawatomie, Kansas Massacre and the Harper's Ferry Raid in
- discussions with pro-abortionists, pointing out that just as his
- wrongful activities did not justify slavery or discredit the entire
- abolitionist movement, less drastic wrongdoing on the part of
- some pro-lifers cannot justify abortion or discredit the right to
- life movement. The important question is not whether pro-lifers
- are good people but whether unborn children are people at all.
- -------
- Marty Helgesen
- Bitnet: mnhcc@cunyvm Internet: mnhcc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
-
- "Experience beats in vain upon a congenital progressive."
- -- C. S. Lewis
-