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- From: dadler@koko.pathology.washington.edu (David Adler)
- Subject: Re: deciding *against* a Ph.D.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.055259.14454@u.washington.edu>
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- Organization: University of Washington
- References: <1992Dec17.181139.3264@news2.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:52:59 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec17.181139.3264@news2.cis.umn.edu> diqui@pathogen.med.umn.edu (Diqui
- LaPenta) writes:
- >...My problem is not my adviser or even my project. My problem
- > is that the very thought of getting my Ph.D. only to devote my life to sitting
- > at a lab bench and wrestling for grant funding has become truly depressing. I
- > have discovered, at this late juncture, that I am not well-suited to bench work. During
- > ...
- > I suppose it would be beneficial to any others with the same dilemma to post
- > responses, but you can also reply to me via e-mail at:
- >
- > diqui@lenti.med.umn.edu
- >
- > Thanks in advance for any suggestions and feedback,
-
- I think you have already seen a number of stimulating responses and I thought I would add
- my own experience to the discussion.
-
- I find myself now at the age of 45 trying to wrap up the completion of my Ph.D. that I
- started in 1973. Almost twenty years and 3000 miles later I may actually attain this
- thing. My problem in the early years, and I'm sure many others, was my personal need to to
- do the "definitive" experiment. Of course science doesn't really advance that way but
- rather the little pieces put into place by all of us. And not being satisfied with what I
- had done in the lab I left with the M.A. in the middle of writing my thesis. Well three
- years later, after doing other things - sort of not science, I found myself unemployed and
- desperate enough to apply for a lab tech job. I called a well known scientist at UW who
- works in a field with which I was familiar. After introducing myself and asking about tech
- openings he asked me if I was the "Adler" from a particular paper. This was one of the
- papers from my earlier graduate work. I was "shocked" that he knew this paper and
- proceeded to tell me it was a nice piece of work - I was still operating under the
- assumption that I had not done that definitive expt. and anything less was pretty
- uninteresting. Well to bring the story forward rapidly, he didn't have any jobs but he
- told me about a new faculty person down the hall, also working in the same area, who just
- had their tech quit on them. Two weeks later I was hired; and now ten years later and
- lot's of productivity - i.e. I've added a few more pieces to the puzzle, I am actually
- going to go in the front door.
-
- Of course their are the practical concerns you mention. Getting grants is harder than it
- used to be and will consume your time and energy. Getting a real job is not that easy
- either. And deciding to do research as a career is not for the folks who need immediate
- reward on a daily basis (on the other hand good expt results, even if they are once every
- few months, induces in me one of the most euphoric feelings). Your concern about bench
- work is not necessarily troublesome since many successful scientists don't end up doing
- much bench work - their grad students, postdocs, techs do it. You need to weigh how much
- you want and need the intellectual challenge of research. And as others have said their
- are many career paths to which to apply your experience OR maybe you want to do something
- totally different.
-
- My advice to you is to find a quiet place away from the lab and let your inner self tell
- you things. I've often suggested fantasizing to others contemplating these important
- decisions - i.e. let yourself wonder what you would really enjoy doing if
- anything/everything was possible.
- (Patti Smith says it "...the sea of possibilities...see the possibilities")
- Good luck imagining
- David
-
- BTW: I didn't realize this was going to go on this long - so my apologies especially since
- I have one of those funny little chromosomes, my partner refers to as the mutant one,
- that seems to have several socially undesirable traits mapped to it and this is really a
- group for the XX's.
-