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- From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: Why Do We Have Separate Restrooms? (WAS Re: Gays, the military...)
- Message-ID: <105795@bu.edu>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 17:38:42 GMT
- References: <1992Dec29.050754.14925@netcom.com> <105743@bu.edu> <1992Dec29.223003.20946@netcom.com>
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- Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
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- In article <1992Dec29.223003.20946@netcom.com>
- phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
-
- [BK:]
- >>Look, men are used to seeing other men's naked bodies. Gay
- >>men can't be held responsible for creating a climate of fear.
- >>They CAN be held responsible for their sexual conduct, but no
- >>another person's thoughts.
-
- >O.K. then, do you, or do you not, think that seperate facilities for
- >women and men (communal sleeping showering, shitting) is justified?
- >If it IS justified, then why?
-
- Well, admittedly it does go against engrained traditions, but we've
- seen that co-ed dorms can exist peacefully at universities, and even
- co-ed showers. So it IS possible. Sort of like nudists becoming accustomed
- to the sight of other people naked. Nudity and sex are very much conflated
- in our society.
-
- >Why can women have seperate facilities from
- ><people sexually attracted to them> but men can not?
-
- Practically speaking, women are much less accustomed to male nudity than
- other men are, and this is why we see so few cases of male-male sexual
- harassment.
-
- >Or how about, just for you :-), all your changing rooms in clothing stores
- >are glass enclosed? If it would bother you, why?
-
- Of course. It wouldn't bother me more that women were seeing me than
- men---the root of nakedness-anxiety is that the spectators are strangers and
- are clothed. We are at ease with nudity only if the majority of others
- are naked in our presence.
-
- Brian
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- kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,
- Boston, MA 02215. True personal salvation is achieved by absolute faith in
- ones true self.
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