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- From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: Why Do We Have Separate Restrooms? (WAS Re: Gays, the military...)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.050754.14925@netcom.com>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 05:07:54 GMT
- References: <44026@zygot.ati.com> <1992Dec28.114046.1520@netcom.com> <105715@bu.edu>
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- In article <105715@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec28.114046.1520@netcom.com>
- >phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone) writes:
-
- >Again, why the subtle difference in how you word your
- >arguments about men and women? Why the implication of ALL
- >women, but only "mostly" for men?
- >
- >Come on, admit it---the reason we have separate bathrooms is
- >so that men don't sexually harass women.
-
- No, otherwise there would be large scale rapes in nudist colonies.
-
- It is sexual context. People from very puritanical cultures seem to
- have a hard time dealing with something such as a topless beach -- to
- them, such heretofore unencountered sexual "display" *must* mean the
- women are all loose and "sexually available", which is of course, not the
- case.
-
- Yet a person accustomed to such beaches would think it no big deal.
-
- Whether you like it or not, men in a locker room do not care to be placed
- in a sexual context out of their choice. The only information on this other
- than personal anecdotes is the complaints of men in professional sports.
- Their complaint is not that some women reporter is going to rape them, but that
- after a game involving a lot of hard work, they want the locker room to be
- free of any sexual context. And both women and homosexual men introduce that
- sexual context.
-
- Ask a straight man how comfortable he would be if every time he took a shower
- in his home, a number of straight women (that are not sexually interested in
- him in any way) were to be cluttering his hallway. It can be bothersome.
-
- Because of differences in sexual outlook between men and women (and that
- includes homosexual men as well), almost all women would NOT want
- unisex showers and bathrooms. Most men would not either, but, there would
- be a higher percentage of men that WOULD want it -- most likely for hanky
- panky.
-
- Men are far more often the sexual agressor. Women, for this reason among others,
- do not want unisex facilities. Men are not used to be sexually agressed
- against. In the military now, homosexuality has to be hidden. If it were open,
- it would remove one check against sexual agression against men. I.e., a
- homosexual NCO could not make the slightest move against a private because
- his homosexuality has to be hidden.
-
- In short, given seperate facilities as in men's and women's, I can't see any
- other rational reason to ban homosexuals.
-
-
-
-
- --
- I believe Gennifer Flowers.
-
- These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)
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