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- From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
- Newsgroups: ba.politics
- Subject: Re: More Child Molestors for Christ
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.214821.2250@netcom.com>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 21:48:21 GMT
- References: <105324@bu.edu> <1992Dec19.231700.27834@netcom.com> <105393@bu.edu>
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- In article <105393@bu.edu> kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
- >Tell us WHY you think homosexuality is inherently sad, sick
- >and self-destructive. Reason demands an answer. So far all
- >you've said is that it's your opinion, like hating lima
- >beans. Opinions don't mean much without an argument.
- >>...
- >Sure. But you're attempting to validate your prejudice
- >against homosexuality by trotting out a supposed analogy. You
- >must argue against it on its own demerits.
- >
- >>You see, this is one of the things that VERY much disturbs
- >>me. It seems most people have no ability to distinguish
- >>between something "they don't like" and "something that
- >>should be banned/made illegal".
- >>
- >One of the most feared questions, which has NOTHING to do
- >with legality or illegality, is "why do I feel the way I do
- >about people who aren't like me?"
- >
- >And it still disturbs me greatly that you are an atheist who
- >is not only a moral absolutist but a rational relativist. It
- >just seems that your whole outlook is conveniently rigged to
- >support your prejudices.
-
- You are missing the whole point -- or perhaps you do see it but feel you
- must ignore it.
-
- 1. We are "put here" with but one goal -- to seek happiness. All the world's
- religions (Chritian, Moslem, Communisn/Socialism, Eco fascism) that tell
- you otherwise ("ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you
- can do for your country" -- J. "Benito" Kennedy) are full of shit and
- basically are seeking your submission to their needs for their
- aggrandisement.
-
- 2. Happiness is TOTALLY subjective.
-
- 3. If any one comes along and tries to tell you that being happy "that way"
- isn't rational, well, grab your wallet and run away.
-
-
- You keep asking me WHY I have the opinions I do. You keep bringing rationality
- into it. Why?
-
- A. Guys butt fucking each other is unnatural.
- B. We have evolved to sexually couple male/female.
- C. The anus is not designed for sexual intercourse.
- D. Homosexuality in other species, such as rats, is only observed in
- pathological conditions.
- E. And so on ...
-
- There, homosexuality is not rational.
-
- So what? Everything not permitted by the State is forbidden by the State?
-
- That's the great catch. If Ms. Josephine Politically-Correct says "you
- can't discriminate against that person because of his skin color, it is
- irrational", well, she is making a political statement for a rational
- reason. Skin color is NOT a very good way to discriminate.
-
- But if you bring rationality into "it", "it" being the are of pursuit of
- happiness, then you have opened Pandora's box.
-
- Homosexuality is not rational. Not biologically, and perhaps not emotionally.
-
- So do "we" now get to "ban" homosexuality because it's not rational?
-
- Or do we say, no way Jose -- it's YOUR right to pursue happiness that way?
-
- Of course, if YOU get the right to be XYZ, then I get the right to have
- nothing to do with XYZ.
-
- See the problem?
-
- Probably not - at least not willingly.
-
-
- And I think that's why Coloradans passed the no special rights for homosexuals
- law. They were tired, as I am, of seeing this and that group get new legal
- coercive clubs with which to coerce other people.
-
- I am pro-choice on abortion, yet, I truly feel for people that are
- anti-abortion that see THEIR tax dollars go to support something that
- truly does revolt their entire being.
-
- Why do YOU want a law that would force, say, a Christian landlord that
- believes stronlg that homosexuality is a sin to rent to a homosexual?
-
- Because it's not rational you say? Perhaps, but then again, perhaps
- homosexuality isn't rational.
-
-
-
- Happines is subjective. Rationality can help in the pursuit, but it can
- not rule the pursuit. (Consider mountain climbing -- at times, a VERY
- dangerous sport. Does it make some people happy? Damn right. Rationaly
- though, they shouldn't do it -- too dangerous.)
-
-
-
-
- I don't ask YOU why you are homosexual. I don't ask you why you are "fucking
- the wrong sex". I do ask you to let me have the same freedom of choice that you
- want. You don't have to explain to me why you fuck what you fuck, and I
- don't have to explain to you why I hire what I hire.
-
- Capische?
-
-
-
- --
- I believe Gennifer Flowers.
-
- These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)
-