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- From: ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson)
- Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
- Subject: alt.sys.amiga.cnews
- Message-ID: <ciaran.3myp@aldhfn.akron.oh.us>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 16:10:09 GMT
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- In article <211292v0544@hamburg.uucp> wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering) writes:
- [...]
- > ALTNET:
- > - Post proposal to alt.config asking for comments. If not too much poeple
- > say `nah!' during 3 (more? less?) weeks, go on and
- >
- > - post the `newgroup mygroup' to `alt.config', stating something like
- > `according to discussion in alt.config ...'
- >
- > Am I wrong? (That's more or less the way it's done in de.*/de.alt.*, the
- > German newsgroups.) If not, an alt group is a lot easier and faster to
- > create -- for the cost of lesser propagation, I am told.
-
- That's basically it for an alt group except that there are no time
- limits.
-
- ------------------ From the alt group creation faq ----------------------------
-
- Now the Guidelines:
- -------------------
-
- 1) Propose a new alt group in alt.config. The proposal
- should include a charter or purpose for the new group, and
- some demonstration of the need for the group. It is best to
- make it clear in your subject line that you are proposing a
- new group. Be prepared to explain why an existing group cannot
- be used for this purpose, and why the group should be in "alt"
- rather than in one of the mainstream hierarchies (like
- "rec", "sci", etc.). Avoiding the complexity of the
- mainstream group creation procedure is not a very good
- reason, groups should not be created in "alt" just because
- it's easier. Many sites do not get any alt groups, so if
- you are proposing a serious group, it is worth the effort to
- try to get it into a mainstream hierarchy.
-
- 2) See what the alt.net.opinion of the new group is. Wait a
- few days for replies to trickle in from the far corners of
- the net. If the consensus (however you determine that) is
- that the group should be created, then proceed to step 3.
-
- (these first two steps are often ignored, which usually
- leads to unpleasantness in step 4 below)
-
- 3) Post a "newgroup" control message. If you don't know
- how to do this, check with your news administrator. If you
- ARE your news administrator, and you can't figure it out
- from the documentation you have (or don't have any
- documentation) send me mail and I will help you. NOTE that
- many sites do NOT automatically honor "newgroup" and
- "rmgroup" control messages, the news software at these sites
- will send mail to the news administrator, who will evaluate
- your request and decide whether or not to create the group.
- It may take a couple of days for the control message to
- propagate and be acted upon, so don't expect instant
- availability of the new group, particularly if you post the
- control message on a Friday night.
-
- NB: It is good manners to put a description of the new
- newsgroup into the newgroup message, along with a
- one-line description suitable for inclusion into the
- newsgroups file.
-
- 4) Let the individual site news administrators decide
- whether to honor your "newgroup" message. Most admins
- prefer that the message come from a verifiable account,
- messages which are obviously forged, or have not been
- discussed in alt.config and contain no explanation will
- probably not be honored by many sites. Persons opposed to
- the group, or admins who feel that the newgroup message was
- a forgery may send out "rmgroup" messages to try to sabotage
- the group. It may take several iterations of this process
- to firmly establish the new group. It has been humorously
- suggested that only alt groups which get 100 more "newgroup"
- than "rmgroup" messages should be established. However,
- these "rmgroup wars" are annoying to news administrators,
- and reduce the overall acceptance (and distribution) of the
- "alt" hierarchy. This is the reason that steps 1 and 2
- above are important.
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