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- From: datepper@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Aaron Tepper)
- Subject: Etymological matters (was Re: African-American-top)
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- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:08:08 GMT
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- Bruce Tindall wrote:
-
- >And to round things out, in German, following the logical rule that all
- >diminutives are neuter, girls have no gender at all. Das Fraeulein
- >(neuter)
- >is the diminutive of "die Frau" (the (feminine gender) woman).
-
- Mmmmm... if I remember correctly, young children _in_general_ are
- referred to in the neuter. The word for a young boy is "das Knabe",
- I believe. In fact, that's where we get the words "ego" and "id".
-
- In German, those terms are translated as "das Ich" and "das Es".
- Young children, whose desires are more primal and uncontrollable,
- are called "it". It is not until later in life, when they acquire
- an identity or sense of "I", that they can reason things out.
-
- Or something like that... no, I'm not a psych major, and would
- greatly appreciate a response from one who could fill in the details.
-
- Point is, though, that you really shouldn't condemn anything as
- sexist until you know for sure that it doesn't apply equally to
- male and female. "Das Knabe" and "Das Fraeulein" is one example--
- nowadays, "Frau" is even becoming more common as a form of address
- to young women.
-
- Tep--blabbering on
- --
- Did you really think I spoke for anyone else? Boy, you're gullible!
-