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- From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
- Subject: Re: Damned Souls (was Re: Version Five)
- References: <C058Hz.Fq2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <725976390@lear.cs.duke.edu> <C08roy.JFG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan3.031119.12651@netcom.com>
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- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:04:02 GMT
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- payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
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- >In article <C08roy.JFG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
- >>gazit@duke.cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit) writes:
- >>
- >>>In article <C058Hz.Fq2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
- >>>levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
- >>
- >>>>I am only defending the idea that affirmative action is *sometimes*
- >>>>reasonable. I would by no means defend all current uses of affirmative
- >>>>action.
- >>
- >>>Which one would you defend?
- >>
- >>If you are talking about affirmative action to give preference to groups
- >>of people (as opposed to individual evaluations of people that are in
- >>part based on their specific background), the best example is the
- >>Alabama State Trooper case.
- >>
- >>For many years, black people were not allowed to be Alabama state
- >>troopers. Note this is the sort of occupation that many black Americans
- >>choose. In any case, when this period of discrimination ended, there was
- >>a very large pool of black Alabamans who wanted to be state troopers,
- >>who could have performed the job acceptably, who had been passed over due to
- >>the previous policy of discrimination.
- >>
- >>The government of Alabama was ordered to institute a *temporary* policy
- >>of affirmative action, to amend for previous discrimination. This order
- >>was upheld by a Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court.
-
- >Let me get this straight, there is a large number of -qualified- black
- >Americans just waiting to be Alabama State troopers? So why is AA needed
- >for them to get jobs? I could see of they were marginally qualified, or
- >marginally unqualified, but if there -were- qualified, what is the problem?
-
- >I really do not understand this example Lenore.
-
- Yet the facts were as I gave them. I don't remember much more about the
- case. Would anyone help us out?
-
- Lenore Levine
-