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- From: jean@cs.cornell.edu (Jean M. Petrosino)
- Newsgroups: alt.feminism
- Subject: Re: Working with Women vs. Working with Men
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.170637.24982@cs.cornell.edu>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 17:06:37 GMT
- Distribution: usa
- Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
- Lines: 68
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- Robert Stephen Rodgers sums it up in the following statements:
- >
- > "If women cannot tell the difference, well then--tough."
- >
- >(Thanks for making the effort to bridge the communication gap between women
- > men with this enlightening statement.)
-
-
- The effort has been made a number of times and failed.
-
- Frankly, I don't much care about having happy-fun communication--
- it's not the job we're supposed to be doing.
-
- >Okay, Mr. Serious.<
-
- > "...but your partner insists on PLAYING with a thesaurus
- > and PRETTYFYING all of what you're writing instead of aiding
- > the task at hand...After an hour or two, you're liable to
- > strangle them so that they'll SHUT UP long enough for you to
- > think."
- >
- >( I think your paralelling women with children who need to be (physically)
- > shut up is a nice touch.)
-
-
- Come off it. Is your reading level really that low?
-
- >Are you really so simple as to not consider the language that
- you use? I suppose you paralell black men with children as well.<
-
-
- > to getting the job done."
- >
- >(...by your guidelines and time-table.)
-
-
- Well, since that's all there is (they seem unable to make
- guidelines or a timetable for themselves that they're willing to
- stick to--and this includes timetables made as a team) that's
- the way it'll have to be.
-
- >What would we do without men like you who will take charge when
- us women just can't seem to get it together?<
-
-
- > "It is *not* a power issue."
- >
- >(...that you are willing to see, discuss, or begin to understand.)
-
-
- Ah, the cry of the pathetic. "You don't understand"
- It is not my job to constantly make every effort to understand
- a group that refuses to be honest and up-front about what
- it is you're trying to do. It is not *my* job to try and
- make efforts to understand and empathize a process that fails
- to get the job done.
- --
- >And I suppose it is also not your job to understand anyone or
- anything that does not center upon your 'needs.'<
-
- >Calling someone pathetic implys they want your sympathy. EMPATHY
- is what I give, and what I ask for.<
-
-
- " Equality is a delusion."
- Translation: Suck it up.
-
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