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- From: michael@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Michael)
- Subject: Re: Language
- Message-ID: <michael.724962466@glia>
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- Organization: University of Washington
- References: <1992Dec16.135617.5840@cs.cornell.edu> <1992Dec20.232507.594@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:27:46 GMT
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- In <1992Dec20.232507.594@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> evahramian@mta.ca writes:
- >In article <1992Dec16.135617.5840@cs.cornell.edu>, jean@cs.cornell.edu (Jean M. Petrosino) writes:
- >>
- >>And what about derrogatory terms for both women and men (and their anatomies)? Here is my list (feel
- >>free to add on):
- >>
- >>Women: Men:
- >> bitch dick
- >> cunt jerk
- >> slut dork
- >> whore geek
- >> dog pig
- >> hole muscle-head
- >> snatch asshole
- >> pussy
- >> prude
- >> dick-tease
- >> ice-queen
- >>
- >>
- > Does it strike you that there are more terms for women
- >>than for men? Even if you can come up with an equal number of terms for men
- >>and women - do you notice the difference in what the terms for women vs. the
- >>terms for men imply? Terms for men imply they are not attractive primarily
- >>because of their intellect (either a lack thereof, or having TOO much), or they
- >>imply that men don't have a good personality. Derrogatory terms for women
- >>primarily focus on sexuality (either a lack thereof, having TOO much, or simply
- >>being an object for sex). Does anyone else find this interesting?
- >>
- >>(this post is in no way meant to be flame bait or sarcastic--I would honestly
- >> like to discuss this issue)
- >>
- >>-jean
- >>
-
- >Jean,
-
- >I can understand that you are concerned about the foul words used to
- >describe both women and men. But you admittedly stated that these were
- >not due to a well researched effort. You have obviously posted the message
- >with a theme in mind...the treatment of women.
-
- Oh no! She had a theme in mind? *gasp*
-
- > So you have probably
- >avoided mentioning several words to describe men, navaho indians, blacks,
- >pakistanis, west indian, liberals, and Armenians.
-
- Oh no! She wants to get specific about women? In a newsgroup called
- alt.feminism? SHAME on her! *astonished look*
-
- >In the future, don't expect intelligent discussion when your statements
- >show a definite lack of objectivity.
-
- It was my understanding she invited discussion. So if you don't feel
- that there is a disparity in words used as she describes, the proper
- response would have been to have talked about why you believe that.
-
- > And no, I dont call women pussies,
- >i call men that act like women, pussies.
-
- I'm glad you feel defensive enough to mention that. However I might point
- out that no one has accused you of saying such that I'm aware of.
-
- In addition, calling men that act like women pussies is a remarkable
- thing. You've not only managed to try to insult men, but you've insulted
- women at the same time. I guess I'll have retract my previous paragraph
- and accuse you after all. :) And by the way. Aside from the fact that
- most men I know look very little like a pussy, I can't think of a thing
- about that part of a female's anatomy that I find insulting.
-
- Michael Stanley (michael@glia.biostr.washington.edu)
-