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- From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Muffavore)
- Subject: Re: LSD and alcoholics posting on usenet
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- Date: 27 Dec 92 20:20:17 PST
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- In article <1992Dec27.162719.9247@prime.mdata.fi>, jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec27.012019.1@pomona.claremont.edu> cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Muffavore) writes:
- >> You're forgetting that alcoholism is a disease, whether a mental or
- >>physiological addiction...having a good experience isn't going to affect the
- >>alcoholic's drinking -- he will still need alcohol to function.
- >
- > Yeah, sure. "Poor alcoholics. Such a horrible disease."
- >
- > Just read from the newspapers today of a new drug naloxone which
- > prevents the brain from forming natural opiates when drinking. Somewhere
- > in the article they also quoted the original speaker:"We have found more
- > evidence to the claim that alcoholism is a biochemical disease and not
- > just lack of willpower". With this in mind we could treat addiction
- > whatsoever as a disease. So what? Does it change the fact that a person
- > is addicted and unable to control him/herself?
-
- How does this change the point? The alcoholic is still one dependent
- on alcohol, and giving him LSD/MDMA/pure strychnine isn't going to change that.
- Sure, rant on about how addiction is a disease, but you're offering no
- solutions.
- Despite your assertions, I still believe (along with many others who've
- taken this route, experienced it, etc) that the only way to kick an addiction
- is cold turkey. Not any sort of lame-ass drug therapy, which would be
- subscribing to the same theory of human machinery that you denigrate, but an
- actual confrontation of the problem with the will...
-
- >
- > I am deeply wondering what do these "scientists" think a human is but a
- > biochemical machine.
-
- I am deeply wondering what the hell you're trying to say.
-
- >
- > --
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- Muffavore
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