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- From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
- Subject: Re: Fried Brain on Acid
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:52:26 GMT
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- Anthony Ankrom (aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
- : While reading this post I got a silly idea: What if during the process of
- : tripping, one encountered a stimulus or stimuli that, induced the brain
- : into rewiring itself in a random way? (By brain, I mean the cortex) I mean
- : these stimuli are certainly elusive, but conceivably thewy could exist.
- : And what might it take to rehabilitate a victim of this hypothetical
- : affliction. By no means am I suggesting this as a proscription against the
- : use of LSD or any other hallucinogen. But it judst seemed an interesting
- : possibility. It wouldn't necessarilly have to be random either. Some
- : overwhelming stimulus may ber able to render a tripper vegatative. I have
- : no idea how frequently such an event could occur. (Please no flames on
- : this, just discussion. I'm not out to spread myths and fear...)
-
- It would seem to me that any event severe enough to cause PTSD (Post-
- Traumatic Stress Disorder) on someone in a normal state of mind would be
- likely to cause more severe and intense changes in personality and
- ability to function if experienced by someone who is tripping.
- This in fact sounds very like what happened to the guy described a
- while ago who while tripping was told that his father died, was assaulted
- by police, etc. Maybe a psychologist familiar with PTSD treatment
- could have saved him, instead of guilt-tripping him and abandoning him
- to his depression.
- Someone very close to me was once raped by a former boyfriend while
- tripping and unable to resist or complain. I don't expect her to ever
- try any psychedelic again. I didn't know her then, and it was a long
- time ago, so I don't know how badly it affected the rest of her life.
-
- : A friend of mine's brother once had a syndrome following an acid trip
- : that seemed a hybrid of post-traumatic distress and schizophrenia. He
- : couldn't carry on a coherent conversation or sleep. He eventually recovered
- : and is perfectly healthy now, but it makes me wonder what induced this. It
- : was NOT like he was still tripping. It was like an odd aftereffect...
-
- With LSD tending to make suppressed memories more accessible, it
- seems possible to me that circumstances resembling traumatic childhood
- memories would trigger more profound reactions. If they were not
- consciously worked through and "exorcised" while still tripping, as I
- think some forms of LSD therapy did, then it's conceivable that they
- would have considerable impact for some period of time. The unconscious
- packs a lot more punch than most people realize.
- Still speculation, but I think it's more likely that the triggering
- stimulus for a severe reaction would be someting highly personal than
- an abstract stimulus of the type you describe. (Though it makes for
- good science fiction, and has appeared in various science fiction stories.)
- -- Clifton
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