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- From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
- Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
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- References: <1992Dec17.024619.24224@fy.chalmers.se> <kNy4VB2w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:24:56 GMT
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- In article <kNy4VB2w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz>, system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
- |> smidt@fy.chalmers.se (Peter Smidt) writes:
- |>
- |> > In article <92348.143452U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> U56673@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
- |> > >There is a leathal dose of ANYTHING (with the exception of air).
- |> >
- |> > Wrong. Air to is lethal. At 80 meters depth divers can be intoxicated
- |> > by normal compressed air, because the partial pressure of oxygen
- |> > is so high that it starts to make some *very* rapid oxidation of
- |> > your nerves and also breaking down the cells.
- |>
- |> Does anyone know who first discovered this fact. [The fact didn't need
- |> discovering - it was always there.]
-
- Guess the time is right to straighten out the facts. Now, most of the
- following should be the dope found in most decent encyclopedias. I'll
- try to be brief...
-
- Air is a mixture of gases. A group of the gases in fairly constant
- concentrations, and a group with concentrations that are variable in
- space and time. The first mix do vary if you consider extreme variations
- in height, but at "ground level" the main gases in the mix is something
- like this (numbers are percentage by volume):
-
- Nitrogen 78.084
- Oxygen 20.946
- Argon 0.934
- Neon 0.0018
-
- In addition helium, methane, krypton, krypton, hydrogen, nitrous oxide and
- xenon are members of this group. (Well, some may say that methane is not,
- but I consider New Zealand a special case.)
-
- In the group of gases with variable concentrations the major gases are:
-
- Water vapour 0 - 7
- Carbon dioxide 0.01 - 0.1
- Ozone 0 - 0.01
-
- Other members of this group are sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide.
-
- Oxygen was discovered indipendently by C.W. Scheele (apparently 1771,
- maybe as early as 1769, but he didn't publish until 1776 i believe)
- and J. Priestley (1774). A.-L. Lavoisier contributed to the knowledge
- by identifying oxygen as an element and naming the gas.
-
- Nitrogen was discovered at about the same time and the credit usually
- goes to D. Rutherford (1772). However, Scheele, and Priestley together
- with H. Cavendish discovered it independetly at about the same time.
- (Priestley also discovered Dinitrogen Monixide...) Lavoisier identified
- nitrogen as an element as well, but he failed to find the correct name
- (he named the gas `azote'.)
-
- Of the above mentioned persons Lavoisier is worth another paragraph. During
- the French revolution Marat accused him, among other things, of stopping
- the circulation of air in Paris. Some years later, during the Reign of
- Terror, he was arrested and May 8 1794 he was tried by the revolutionary
- tribunal and guilliotined.
-
- Oxygen is found to be toxic at partial pressure above 0.5 bar if sustained
- over some time (days/weeks). A partial pressure of 1.5 to 2 bar may cause
- the rapid onset of convultions. However, the limit will vary from person
- to person, and the gas mix may have an effect as well. (Michael Jacksons
- oxygen tent may not be a good idea, but if he uses a mix of 40% oxygen
- and 60% helium he should be able to sleep safe.)
-
- Undir high partial pressure oxigen toxicity manifests itself primarily
- in the central nervous system. However, the most frequent symptom reported
- in divers who contracted oxygen toxicity was laboured breathing.
-
- Chemically, nitrogen is quite inert. However, it's absorbed by the fatty
- tissue (e.g. the brain and the rest of the nervous system) faster than
- by other tissues. When a high concentration of nitrogen is breathed the
- nervous system becomes saturated with the inert gas, and normal functions
- are impaired. The result is nitrogen euphoria or nitrogen narcosis. The
- mechanism of nitrogen narcosis is not yet fully understood.
-
- The effect depends on the partial nitrogen pressure, exposure time and
- other factors like increased alveolar carbon dioxide amount. Divers can
- experience the onset of nitrogen narcosis from 50' to 200', the threshold
- varies from person to person. Most often the symptoms becomes apparent
- at 100'. It begins as a feeling of light-headedness, euphoria and numbness.
- Another description used is carefreeness. The next level is irrationality
- and emotional instability. The temperature and light seems to be important
- to how the nitrogen narcosis is experienced by the diver. Warm water and
- much ligh may give pleasant sensations; Cold, dark water yields anxiety
- and panic.
-
- Nitrogen narcosis may be fatal, but usually the victim is capable of
- functioning physically (and may not realize that his/her rationality
- is impaired.)
-
- Using a nitrogen/oxygen mix diving is limited to about 300' because of
- nitrogen narcosis and resistance to breathing. We must use another inert
- gas. Helium was found to be superior because it's light and only 1/9 as
- narcotic as nitrogen. Hydrogen is another gas used at extreme pressures.
- This option, however, requires the amount of oxygen to be very small. A
- side effect when using helium and hydrogen is a Donald Duck'ish voice
- that makes communication difficult.
-
- However, I didn't find any references to the person who discovered
- the toxic effect of oxygen...
-
- ---
- YuNoHoo "why on earth did you want to read this anyway"
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