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- From: met48546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marc E. Talbot)
- Subject: Re: REPOST: Reply #1 to Marc Talbot (met48546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:36:35 GMT
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- eidetics@nic.cerf.net (Eidetics Int'l) writes:
-
- >Excuse me, sir, but have you forgotten about something called the Manhattan
- >Project? A project which developed a seemingly impossible (at the time)
- >superweapon for use in wartime, in total secrecy? A project which was the most
- >costly in history up to that time, yet the money was spent without the knowledge
- >of Congress? A project with thousands of people in many laboratories involved,
- >but with fewer than 100 people knowing its true purpose? No, I think these
- >things could be done in secret. Besides, the Apollo project was far bigger than
- >that, and they successfully covered-up its true purpose, didn't they? Do you
- >actually think that $20 billion dollars were spent by our secret rulers, even
- >if it's our money, just to go pick up some moon rocks?
-
- Do you really believe that we could have kept the Manhattan project a secret
- much longer? (ie, if we hadn't used the bomb) It's easy during wartime to
- justify to a bunch of workers that they're doing "something for the war"
- without telling them what they're doing. I don't think there's any way the
- US could have kept knowledge about the bomb out of the public's view.
-
- Please provide documentation for your claims that the Apollo project was
- anything other than what it was claimed to be. We went to the moon for two
- main reasons: for scientific inquiry, and most importantly, to assert our
- dominance in space at a time shortly after the Soviets seemed to be doing
- better than we are.
-
- I like to see justification for "secret rulers" comments as well. Would
- it be possible for one of the Beter-people to post a summary of his claims?
- His letters are very tedious to read through and some of them are quite boring.
-
- >Why is such a space battle hard to cover up? The most visible aspect of that
- >battle and its aftermath was the Skylab destruction, which was witnessed over
- >much of the southwestern U.S., including by the McDonald Observatory in Texas,
- >and was successfully covered-up by the Skylab charade a year later. Other than
- >that, I don't see much difficulty in covering it up.
-
- Sorry, but I missed all the details of the battle. Did anybody die? Did they
- have families? We must have had a lot of people monitoring this from the
- ground. How'd we silence them?
- >As for particle beam and other technology not being feasible, this is definitely
- >a matter of opinion, physics major or not. As I recall, similar things were
- >once said about telephones, airplanes, and more recently, underwater missiles
- >and free-energy machines, all by supposedly well-informed, self-proclaimed
- >experts. Maybe you should dig out the October 2, 1978 back-issue of Aviation
- >Week and Space Technology, for a discussion of beam weapons, in which it is
- >admitted that particle beam technology is in fact feasible.
-
- I don't think this is a matter of opinion. If it is, then take some physics
- classes and at least have an informed opinion. BTW, there is no such thing
- as a free-energy machine. We have never found ANY instances of conservation
- of energy not being held. Machines which run off wind, the earth's mag field,
- etc, provide "cheap" energy, but it is being taken from somewhere and
- redistributed as presumably electrical power. I would object far more
- strenuously over Beter's claims about cosmosphere's than the particle weapons
- (which I still don't understand the point of...explosives are much easier).
-
- >I'll save you the trouble of reposting the Audio Letter you refer to. It's
- >#26, and you can find it on alt.conspiracy and talk.politics.misc.
-
- Thank you for providing references.
-
- >Jon Volkoff
- >eidetics@cerf.net
-
- Marc Talbot
-
-