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- From: arthur@sgi.com (Arthur Evans)
- Newsgroups: alt.beer
- Subject: British Beers (was: Re: Double Diamond Ale)
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- Date: 31 Dec 92 00:11:46 GMT
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- In article <tom.725257178@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu> tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain) writes:
- >dhembrow@eoe.co.uk (David Hembrow) writes:
- >
- >
- >: I found your posting most illuminating. It is in fact true that we
- >: here in Britain would not let our dogs touch the stuff !
- >
- >: There are some truly excellent beers available in the UK and I'm
- >: afraid that DD is not one of them. Oh well.
- >
- >Out of curiosity, what are a few of the everyday type beer/ale in the
- >UK? Bass, Whitbread ...? Just wondering!
-
- Bass and Whitbread are two of the big British conglomerates.
- There are several others, including Scottish & Newcastle
- (which owns such brands as McEwans, and I think Theakston,
- makers of Old Peculiar).
-
- CAMRA (Campaign For Real Ale) folks will generally portray
- these big companies as the devil incarnate, since they swallow
- up smaller breweries, eliminating regional beers and replacing
- them with national brands.
-
- Britain has a number of small breweries left, though, many
- of which only distribute their beers locally. So, the
- "everyday" beers may vary quite a bit from place to place,
- although there are also some quite good beers available nationally
- (all right, I've said it--so kill me).
-
- A few British brands which you can find in this country, with
- a little work, include: Young's and Fuller's, both of London;
- Felinfoel, from Wales; Samuel Smith's, from Yorkshire; and
- Belhaven, from Scotland. These may not be quite as "everyday"
- in Britain as national brands from the big conglomerates
- mentioned above, but I think they're all pretty widely available
- in their respective locales. Of course, international cheap-n-nasty
- lagers like Lowenbrau and Castlemaine XXXX are also everyday beers
- in this day and age.
-
- Anyway, should you like to try some of these, here are the
- beers from the above mentioned breweries which I've seen in
- the states (these are all bottled beers, which may or may
- not bear resemblence, in name or flavor, to beers these companies
- sell in Britain).
-
- Young's Special London Ale and Ramrod are both nice bitters (the Ramrod
- being the heavier of the two), and Young's Old Nick is a strong
- and dangerous brew indeed. Fuller's produces London Pride and
- Fuller's ESB.
-
- Felinfoel, a fairly small Welsh brewery (as I understand it) turns
- out some delightful ales, marketed here as Welsh Bitter, Double Dragon,
- (a stronger bitter), and Welsh Porter. They also produce Felinfoel
- Festive Ale this time of year. The Festive Ale is a delightfully
- rich winter beer, which I highly recommend y'all go out and grab
- a few bottles of while you can.
-
- That reminds me, Young's also makes a winter beer, Winter Warmer.
- But I digress.
-
- Samuel Smith's makes a huge number of ales, which I can't remember
- half of offhand, although they include Pale Ale, Taddy Porter,
- Oatmeal Stout, and a seasonal Winter Welcome ale. Samuel Smith's
- is a great brewery, but I find it hard to find their beer in good
- condition in this country. Maybe it's the clear bottles. Also,
- they're among the most expensive of the British imports. Sigh.
-
- I think Belhaven may only make one beer for import into this country.
- Anyway, the one I can remember is, I think, simply called Belhaven
- Scottish Ale. I remember it as a sweetish, malty amber-colored beer,
- fairly typical of beers I've had in Scotland.
-
- Among national brands that deserve mention, if only for their
- availability over here are Bass, Whitbread, Worthington's White Shield,
- Guinness (not a British beer, but widely available in Britain),
- McEwan's, Newcastle Brown Ale ... Theakston's Old Peculiar, though
- produced by a megabrewery, is still a delightful beer, dark,
- powerful, and eclectic. Some people say it's gone downhill since
- Theakston's was taken over, but it's still good.
-
- Anyway, I've rambled long enough. I haven't been in Britain in a
- few years, so maybe someone from over that side can clarify what's
- "everyday" nowadays. Personally, I hope to head over to London in
- late February to reacquaint myself with the British beer market ...
-
- OK
- -arthur
-
- P.S.--I should add, in reference to the original subject of this thread,
- that the Double Diamond I've had in this country has been quite good.
- Either they're packaging something completely different for export,
- or our British friends are prejudiced against its keg-beer origins.
- The Double Diamond available here, though not quite in competition
- with fresh, local ales, is not for the dogs.
-
- The queen, however, drinks Young's Special Bitter.
-
- -ae-
-