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- From: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Johnston)
- Newsgroups: alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,alt.child-support,alt.dads-right
- Subject: Re: The EVIL Conspiracy behind this "Men's Choice" thing...
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.163142.18210@news.columbia.edu>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 16:31:42 GMT
- References: <1992Dec27.183413.8950@zooid.guild.org>
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- Reply-To: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Johnston)
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- In article <1992Dec27.183413.8950@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
- >peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri)
- >>gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
- >>>Now, "what about the child"? Well, since the woman in this scenario has
- >>>opted to keep the fetus and have children against the man's wishes she
- >>>should be completely responble for all financial needs.
- >
- >>Why?
- >
- >Why...because the decision to keep the baby was HERS, and HERS ALONE. This
- >comes in large part thanks to this "Women's Choice thing," and we are only
- >calling for men to have a similar freedom of choice during pregnancy.
- >
- >Indeed, if he had already expressed the desire not to be a parent, then
- >there is *no* reason why he should be bound by a decision that is HERS AND
- >HERS ALONE. If she still decides to have the child, in spite of knowing
- >full well that he doesn't wish to be involved in his/her life, then why
- >should he be held liable for a decision in which he had no part?
- >
- >---
- >Will Steeves, goid@zooid.guild.org "Neil Hull is GOiD"
- >ZOOiD BBS, Toronto, Ontario - The Zoo Of Ids "GOiDS Rule"
- >(416) 322-7876
- >
- >"Gravity: It's more than just a fragrance. It's the LAW!"
- > - Will Steeves, President, GOiDS "R" We, Inc.
- >
- > * SLMR 2.1a * If your mind goes blank, remember to turn off the sound.
-
- First of all, the man DID have a choice. He could have not had sex.
- He could have properly used a condom and spermacide. Key word here is
- PROPERLY. This would reduce the chances of pregnancy to about once
- in a couple of hundred years.
-
- Secondly, the mans payments are quite proportionate to the level of
- his choice involved. Let us suppose that the mother spends 40 hours a
- week raising her child. Let us suppose she deserves a decent salary for
- such work,20 dollars an hour. She will spend several thousand dollars
- a year on material items for the child. All told, perhaps $40,000 worth
- of goods and labor each year go into raising the child. At a few hundred
- a month, the fathers burden can hardly be called disproportionate.
-
- Robert Johnston
-