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- From: jimc@megatek.com (Jim Campbell)
- Subject: Science Fair Project
- Message-ID: <1992Dec13.041351.1022@megatek.com>
- Sender: jimc@megatek.com (Jim Campbell)
- Reply-To: jimc@megatek.com
- Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:13:51 GMT
- Lines: 59
-
- First of all, thanks to everyone who has responded to my earlier post, both in
- this newsgroup and by e-mail! All inputs have been greatly appreciated!
- Jimmy, (the friends' son that I'm helping) is happy to see so many people
- interested in providing information on his project.
-
- OK, so it looks like levitating something in the air using only permanent
- magnets is out...
- or....
- (This is a variation of something John Whitmore (whit@u.carson.u.washington.edu
- proposed earlier)).
-
- What about mounting strips of magnets on a rotating disk underneath
- a non-magnetic conductor? If the magnets go by the conductor fast enough, the
- conductor might think that it's being subjected to an AC magnetic field.
-
- I'm hoping that this would induce a current in the conductor, setting
- up a magnetic field that repels against (sp?) the moving magnets' field...
-
- But, does this merely put me back in the 6-DOF problem arena? I was
- hoping that if the disk was spinning fast enough, that the copper disk (the
- conductor) might not have enough time to flip over for 2 of the axis. I have
- no idea what the rpm would have to be. I hope to keep the speed of the disk
- edge somewhere under Mach 1!
-
- The set-up I envision would be a disk about 1 foot in diameter with
- radial strips of cheap disk magnets. I was thinking 6 strips pointing to the
- even-numbered hours of a clock. (2, 4, 6...) Get the disk spinning horizontally
- under a piece of cardboard. Above the cardboard is a copper disk smaller in
- diameter than the spinning disk.
- Since everything is flat, I suppose I'm asking for instabilty. But if
- I 'elevate' the edges of the spinning disk, would that help? Maybe stronger
- magnets at the edge than away from the edge?
- Also, should I use a disk of copper for the stationary disk, or should
- I use some sort of strip arrangement for it as well as the spinning disk?
- (Should I be concerned about eddy currents in the disk interfering with the
- repelling magnetic fields?)
-
- Anyways, the reason I'm posting this is 2-fold.
-
- 1) thanks again for the help so far...
-
- 2) I'd like to make sure I'm not going to wind up with the 6-DOF
- problems that plague the (stationary) permanent magnet problem.
-
- I'll see Jimmy again on Monday, the 14th, and if it looks like this
- approach has a chance I'll buy the materials to start things off. I've already
- taught him some basic stuff about electromagnetism, so it'll be interesting to
- see if I can get him to think of the above buy asking him the right questions
- in the right sequence (remember, I'm only assisting him with this).
-
- Thanks in advance for any helpful information!
-
- regards,
-
-
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- Jim Campbell | "Remember to tweet!"
- jimc@megatek.com | Is it my imagination, or am
- WB6ZPB | I just imaginning things?
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