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- From: kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (BULLDAWG)
- Subject: Re: Metals in liquid Nitrogen !!
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- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:07:54 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec11.192622.6719@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec11.171454.3158@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> kpearce@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (BULLDAWG) writes:
- >
- >[discussion of boiling in nitrogen deleted]
- >>
- >>But at this point, the metal makes a phase transition from one kind of
- >>metal crystal to another (bcc to alpha). Whenever a substance under goes
- >>a phase trnsition it gives up heat. So what was happining was that the
- >>metal was bubbling away as it cooled down giving up heat in a straight-
- >>forward way and then at a centain temperature, the metal says "hey, I'm in the
- >>wrong shape, and I have too much energy" and then gives up that excess energy
- >>_in_addition_ to the heat energy it was giving up to begin with and then
- >>as soon as it makes the phase transition, the copper goes to cooling down as
- >>before (the bubbles slow down).
- >
- > So all metals have discrete phase transitions near the boiling point of
- > nitrogen? And these phase transitions involve increased cooling
- > /increased heat transfer?
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- Of course not.
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- >
- > I think you'll find that it is just changes in the heat
- > transfer characteristics of the metal/fluid interface down near
- > the boiling incipience point that are the real cause.
- >
- > See my earlier posting for details.
- >
-
- I saw the earlier post. The data shown is over a range of temperatures.
- All LN2 that is found in an open dewar will be 77K. Refering to his chart,
- the LN2 should be boiling furiously (and is not, I just took a look to
- make sure). The data that you show in your chart just doesn't apply to this
- process (since it is all taking place at 77K).
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- > dale bass
- >--
- >C. R. Bass crb7q@virginia.edu
- >Department of Mechanical,
- > Aerospace and Nuclear Engineering
- >University of Virginia (804) 924-7926
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