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- From: thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (T. Scott Thompson)
- Subject: Re: Binary Correlations. Was: Levels of Measurement?
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- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:30:45 GMT
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- thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (T. Scott Thompson) writes:
-
- >Perhaps someone interested in the levels of measurement question might
- >be able to help me too.
-
- >I have been acting as informal statistical consultant for my wife, who
- >is a physician with only an elementary statistical background, in a
- >project where she wants measures of association between a fairly large
- >number of binary variables in a sample with n=500 and in a subsample
- >with n = 260. (These numbers may increase in the future.)
-
- >We have been calculating standard Pearson correlation coefficients,
- >which to my way of thinking are as good as anything else at describing
- >binary associations, since scaling is not an issue for binary data. I
- >do not claim to have studied the issue in depth, however.
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- >What is "the right way" to do this from the point of view of
- >statistical theory?
-
- Many thanks to those who have responded so far. I will summarize your
- responses to the net sometime in the future. (Probably in early
- January.)
-
- Since a few people have e-mailed me with requests for more detail
- about the problem/data, here is a summary:
-
- The sample consists of data taken from the charts of pediatric
- patients who were seen in the pediatric outpatient clinic at one of
- the large public hospitals in Minnesota on certain days chosen at
- random. The variables include age and sex of the child, various
- variables summarizing the history of contact with the pediatrics
- clinic (i.e. whether or not it is their first visit, whether or not
- this is their primary care clinic, etc.). These variables are used to
- define the smaller subsample, which can be thought of as the group
- that regularly visits the clinic for medical treatment, and for whom
- the medical history appears to be reasonably complete.
-
- (Yes, we know that there is a selectivity problem. No. We are not
- doing anything about it yet. Any suggestions on how to handle it are
- welcome.)
-
- The remaining variables consist of binary indicators coded from the
- patient's chart for whether or not the patient has certain "morbidity
- factors." These come in three flavors, which I can loosely describe
- as "clinical conditions" (e.g. ear infections), "developmental
- conditions" (e.g. whether or not the child was born premature, whether
- or not the child's physical growth is delayed, diagnosis of speech
- problems), and "social conditions" (e.g. whether or not the mother is
- a teenager, whether or not the child has been refered to a family
- protection agency because of child abuse, whether or not the child has
- been placed in a foster home). There are about 150 morbidities
- altogether, of which about 20 have an estimated incidence greater than
- 2 percent. We are mostly looking at these 20.
-
- The main goal, as nearly as I can tell, is to find patterns in the
- diagnostic groups, i.e. patterns of association among the morbidities
- and among the groups of morbidities. Presumably these will be used to
- help identify the kinds of services that the hospital should be
- providing, and to aid in detection of problems that might otherwise go
- unnoticed in the usual chaos of the clinic.
-
- As you might surmise from the above, the clinic serves a largely poor,
- inner city population, and most of the patients are seen on a "walk
- in" basis.
- --
- T. Scott Thompson email: thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
- Department of Economics phone: (612) 625-0119
- University of Minnesota fax: (612) 624-0209
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