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- From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
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- Subject: Re: The Continuum Hypothesis: Must it be {True or False}, or Not?
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- Date: 15 Dec 92 05:20:26 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: asimov@wk223.nas.nasa.gov's message of Wed, 9 Dec 92 18:38:49 GMT
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- If there were really such a thing as a set, it might make sense
- to ask whether the continuum hypothesis is tru or false.
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- Starting with the early paradoxes and continuing with the independence
- proofs, we have learned that despite our gut feelings to the contrary,
- there really is no such concept as "set". We have some properties of
- sets that we agree on and beyond that we lack the power to make the
- concept more precise, although each individual might have certain
- opinions one way or the other as to which are the common notions.
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- It is like the situation with numbers. After millenia of subtle
- introspection, we now know that there is no such concept as number.
- We have a number of algebraic systems some of which, by convention,
- we refer to as number systems, the elements of those systems being
- called numbers (rational numbers, whole numbers, Cayley numbers,
- p-adic numbers, complex numbers, real, cardinal numbers and
- ordinal numbers numbers). But it purely
- a matter of convention which are considered numbers and which not.
- It is not the case that one can combine any two numbers using the
- operations of arithmetic, since, e.g. there is no canonical way to add
- real numbers and p-adic numbers.
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- In the face of this, it makes no sense to ask whether the square root of
- -1 is a number, since the concept of number does not exist. But in
- a particular algebraic system it might make sense to ask whether
- it contains a square root of -1.
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- It is the same with sets. It does not make sense to ask whether one
- or all sets have a certain property. It only makes sense to ask whether
- a given universe has a certain property or whether a given element
- of a given universe has a certain property or whether all universes do.
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- Meanwhile, the concept of a universe will also evolve...
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- Allan Adler
- ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
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