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- From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
- Newsgroups: sci.math,comp.edu,misc.education
- Subject: Re: Student attitudes
- Message-ID: <1992Dec14.002746.5206@cs.mcgill.ca>
- Date: 14 Dec 92 00:27:46 GMT
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- In article <1g6gsjINNou3@agate.berkeley.edu> bh@anarres.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Brian Harvey) writes:
- >jtbell@hubcap.clemson.edu (Jon Bell) writes:
- >>I realize that it's probably unrealistic to expect math departments to
- >>include more physics-related examples in their calculus courses, because
- >>most of the students _aren't_ physics majors, after all. We really
- >>should spend more time on the math in _our_ courses, but that means
- >>lengthening the courses or omitting physics material to make room for the
- >>math. We already do that to some extent here: the first half semester
- >>of our junior Electricity & Magnetism course is devoted to vector calculus.
- >
- >One solution, if you could get past the politics, would be to have the
- >math dept and the physics dept jointly design and jointly teach a course
- >for physicists that would be both mathematically and psysically
- >respectable. I mean, make the calculus course and the physics course
- >one single course, maybe with twice the usual class hours, but able to
- >spend all of those hours on physics this week and math next week, if
- >that turns out to be appropriate.
-
- I've heard of things like this done, but it seems that in a large number
- of cases as soon as a physics department makes noise about teaching its
- own math courses, turf wars erupt with the math faculty. Disguising it
- under the name "Mathematical Physics" might be an option...
-
- >Is intro physics for physics majors the same course as intro physics
- >for engineers? If so, the demand for this course might actually make
- >it economically feasible.
-
- In a fair number of schools the intro physics courses are lumped into
- the "Physical Sciences and Engineering" and the "Life Science and Other
- Schnooks" versions. Often the latter loses the calculus basis.
-
- --
- Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | Wishing I were an emaciated chihuahua.
- "I was wrong to play God. Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
- Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
- --- M. Burns "Treehouse of Horror II"
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