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- From: regeorge@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert E George)
- Subject: BreakUp Freshman Calculus ?WAS Re: Student attitudes
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- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:38:45 GMT
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- In article <11DEC199208420044@cycvax.nscl.msu.edu> burtt@cycvax.nscl.msu.edu (B
- RIAN BURTT) writes:
- [deletions]
- >
- >An idea for a college/university large enough to offer several calculus
- >sections:
- > Split the calculus sequence into three parts:
- > a) a sequence oriented to physical scientists and engineers that
- >targets the math useful to them-- this is essentially freshman calculus
- >as we know it
- > b) a sequence oriented to economists, business students, statisticians,
- >etc., which give them calculus without relying on "physics" problems
- >that are what calc textbooks normally have
- > c) a sequence oriented to mathematicians, that covers the theoretical
- >aspects of calculus and offers a very early introduction to proofs and
- >developing maturity of mathematical thought.
- > Before I get flamed: I not advocating either insulating scientists
- >totally from mathematical theory, or mathematicians from the applications
- >of their work. I just think the classes should be a little more relevant
- >to those who take them.
- > I am a student, not an educator, so I'm no expert and welcome
- >comments and criticism.
- >
- >--Brian Burtt
- >Undergraduate major in electrical engineering, Michigan State University
- >burtt@lynch.nscl.msu.edu
-
- What about the engineering students who decide near the end of their sophomore
- year that they just can't abide any more lab work and want to switch to
- mathematics? What about the mathematics students who decide near the end of
- their sophomore year that they just can't abide any more abstract work and
- want to switch to engineering or physics? Can (a) and (c) be close enough
- to substitute for each other?
-
- One "advantage" of the current system is that it doesn't really force
- students to make a firm decision as to what they're studying until fairly
- well into their undergraduate career. As I understand, most European
- and Asian students know what they want to study when they enter university?
- Not so for Americans, Americans seem to like it this way.
-
- If "we" decide we want to force students to make the decision earlier in their
- career, I acknowledge that there are good arguments for doing so (and good
- arguments against -- mainly that the entire secondary curriculum isn't
- designed for people to decide that early). But it's necessary to at least
- think about this issue before separating up freshman calculus.
- Robert George
- (speaking only for myself)
-
- "The very essence of individual freedom is equal justice under a rule of
- law, a law to which every man shall be subject and which no executive
- can modify."
- Senator Robert Taft , March 11, 1944
-