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- From: pvr@wang.com ()
- Subject: Re: Flywheel batteries as EV power source
- Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:49:38 GMT
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- References: <Bz6nuM.LCo@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Dec13.114534.961@cmkrnl.com>
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- jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
-
- >In article <Bz6nuM.LCo@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v064mb9k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
- >(NEIL GANDLER) writes:
- >> I just have finished reading the latest Popular Science issue. Jan 93.
- >> On p. 27 they discuss flywheel power as a possible energy source for
- >> future Ev's. Claimed advantges are a cruising rnage of over 600 miles
- >> on an overnight charge on GM's Impact. With a battery weight of only
- >> 600 pounds and a life of 25,000 miles and with no chemical waste when
- >> disposed this new power source could revolutionise the
- >> EV industry. Why is this technology not being looked into more. What
- >> are the dissadvantages. What is this technology exactly. How is
- >> mechanical energy stored in such great amounts.
-
- For a much more informative but unfortunatly brief description
- read the IEEE Spectrum article on battery technology that
- appeared a month or two ago. It discuses various battery designs
- in terms efficiency, power density, hazzards, etc. The article
- has a sidebar that discusses flywheel energy storage. The energy
- density was about double the best of even the exotic batteries.
- They held their energy for weeks. They were safe both chemically
- and mechanically. Some of the people doing research were mentioned
- so you could get more information.
-
- >To be usable for an electric vehicle, you need a massy, large-diameter
- >flywheel that spins at phenomenal speeds.
-
- This is not true, the article says that the highest energy density
- is gotten from small light flywheels spinning at high speed.
-
-
- > It is made with high-tech materials (carbon
- >fibers, that sort of thing) so that it won't tear itself apart.
-
- The carbon fiber is good for the high speeds used but it also
- safe in the event of a rotor failure. It disintegrates when it hits
- the wall of the vacuum chamber. A steel rotor would penetrate
- any resonable chamber and be a hazzard to anyone near by.
-
- >It must be
- >spun in a vacuum chamber or else a lot of the stored energy goes to heating the
- >air. It must be Floated on near-frictionless bearings, such as magnetic
- >bearings, and coupling to the outside is via a magnetic clutch (ie the flywheel
- >shaft does not extend outside the enclosure).
-
- >All of this is easy to dream up but a bit hard to actually build, especially in
- >production quantities.
-
- The article points out that machinery that is sealed in a chamber
- has been reliably built for many years and that it lasts for 40 years or
- more. Home refrigerators being the best example.
-
- >The flywheel must be arranged with a vertical axis so that gyroscopic effects
- >don't make it impossible to turn the car. Still, you need to worry about these
- >effects whenever the car enters a sharply-banked road or freeway ramp.
-
- >Popular Science publishes an awful lot of "gee-whiz" stuff, with the
- >implication that these things are just around the corner. It often isn't so,
- >and I don't think it's so with the flywheel-powered EV.
-
- That is true, so read the Spectrum article for better information.
- --
- >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Reilley ..... pvr@wiis.wang.com ..... KA1LAT <<<<<<<<<<<<<
- Well, that about says it.
-