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- From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
- Subject: Re: PKP/RSA comments on PGP legality
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- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:50:48 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec17.232704.13763@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
- >I'm afraid this is an oversimplification. There are many whom
- >the government has reason to collect intelligence on who cannot
- >use secure cryptography with no fear of prosecution.
- Proof by assertion? Do you have some examples?
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- >I sympathize with the desire for honest citizens to have secure
- >cryptography. I count myself in that number.
- Sorry, but you posts belie that IMHO.
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- >To believe this does not, however, mean that one should deny governments'
- >legitimate interest in this matter,
- How is the government's interest legitimate? Does a government
- have an intrinsic right to spy on individuals? If so why?
- How was this "right" arrived at?
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- >and their taking of cryptographic violations of munitions laws much more
- >seriously than the building of airplane models.
- Considering cryptography a form of munitions would be laughable
- if fewer people were duped by it. Munitions are intrinsically
- life threatening. Crypto is merely a mathematical transformation
- of data. No one can be killed by this. The same argument that would
- be used to claim that crypto is a munition could be used to claim that
- mathematical knowledge is a munition. After all, newtonian mechanics
- can be used to calculate artillery trajectories. Why isn't that
- a munition? I'll tell you why: because the NSA and its cohorts have
- been successful in duping people into believing that crypto is a
- munition. If people would only think critically about the
- blantantly stupid and self serving things their governments try
- to dupe them into believing we would all be a lot better off.
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