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- From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- Subject: RSA Data Security Not All Bad
- Message-ID: <1992Dec15.200924.6018@netcom.com>
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:09:24 GMT
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- I thought I'd mention a few things that show RSA Data Security and Jim
- Bidzos (their President) to not be all bad, vis-a-vis the recent
- discussion of PGP and licensing of the RSA patents.
-
- First, I'm an occasional user of both MacPGP and MailSafe (for DOS
- only). Second, I posted the "Trial Balloon to Ban Encryption?" piece
- on Prof. Denning's ideas about key registration, so I'm not exactly a
- shill for the national security state.
-
- Having said this, I don't believe RSA Data Security is acting to limit
- the availability of their encryption products, as some have suggested.
- I agree that MailSafe, one of their standalone end-user products (and
- the closest thing they have to PGP), is not well-marketed...I had to
- contact them directly to buy a copy. But Jim Bidzos was so eager to
- get "hackers" to use MailSafe that he made a special offer.
-
- Mr. Bidzos authorized me to announce at the Hackers Conference in
- 1991, a year ago, that anyone attending the conference could get
- MailSafe for $50, a substantial reduction from the $125 price at that
- time (I have no idea what the current price is). The idea was that
- this would nearly eliminate the complaints of those who wanted their
- RSA encryption for free.
-
- (Personally, I'm opposed to software patents in general, and the
- patenting of the general math techniques used in RSA in particular.
- Patenting the kind of math used in RSA is akin to letting Trimble
- Navigation, for example, patent the Pythagorean Theorem just because
- they use it in their product. Rivest, Shamir, Adleman, Diffie,
- Hellman, and Merkle all deserve the fame they've gotten, but allowing
- a patent on a fairly simple number theory algorithm is wrong.)
-
- Several folks at that Hackers Conference took advantage of the offer.
- But not enough to make it "interesting" to use (meaning, too small a
- critical mass of users). I used MailSafe to secure some files, but
- never found anyone I wanted to communicate with who also had it. I
- even put "RSA MailSafe public key available" in my .signature for a
- while, but had no takers. This is in contrast to PGP, where about half
- the folks I correspond with use it, or at least have the capability to
- use it.
-
- This is why PGP has become the de facto standard for "hackers" and
- other amateurs (meaning, non-corporate users...and maybe a few folks
- in corporations).
-
- It seems to many of us that RSA Data Security is _helped_ by this
- situation with PGP. Yes, _helped_. Tens of thousands of users of PGP
- are grappling with the issues, learning the methods of RSA digital
- signatures and encryption, and are generally getting used to the idea
- of protecting their own mail and files.
-
- These PGP users are potential customers of future RSA Data Security
- products, either at their companies or, if priced reasonably and
- supported by RSA, for their own use.
-
- Furthermore, the existence of PGP and the rapid rate at which it is
- evolving (the latest release, 2.1, adds significant new features) is
- in stark contrast to the moribund MailSafe, which apparently has not
- changed since 1988. RSA Data Security may not like this "competition,"
- but it may serve to light a fire under them to upgrade their end-user
- products.
-
- (I suppose RSA feels compelled to do something to protect their patent
- position, lest it be jeopardized by their inaction.)
-
- I haven't said anything about the various licensing deals with Lotus
- Notes, Apple, DEC, IBM, etc. These deals suggest RSA's technology is
- about to become widespread amongst corporate users, which is all to
- the good. (Provided there is no crippling of the security...I did hear
- a report that Apple's "Open Collaboration..." product may be forced to
- use a reduced-security version of RSA. If true, this is bad news.)
-
- Finally, another positive word about RSA Data Security. A year ago
- they sponsored a wonderful one-day free conference, in Redwood Shores,
- CA. That conference thoroughly trashed the government's proposed
- "Digital Signature Standard" (DSS), and helped mobilize the backlash
- against it. RSA stood to gain from this repudiation of DSS, but the
- conference was still very useful in illuminating the main problems
- with DSS.
-
- This year the conference is 2 days, January 14th and 15th. Call
- 415-595-8782 for details (but hurry, as I hear it is filling up fast).
-
- Granted, they are pushing their products. But this is also a service
- to the overall crypto community, and for that we should be
- appreciative.
-
- Just thought I'd find something nice to say about RSA Data Security.
-
- ---Tim May
-
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