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- From: "david meadows" <david.meadows@canrem.com>
- Subject: lesbia's labia?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec17.3725.975@dosgate>
- Reply-To: "david meadows" <david.meadows@canrem.com>
- Organization: Canada Remote Systems
- Distribution: sci
- Date: 17 Dec 92 10:39:57 EST
- Lines: 42
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- The authoritative J. ODonnell wrote:
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- JO>> When Catullus wishes to write about sex, he is quite
- >>capable of doing it himself, without later readers doing it for him!
-
- Richard Anderson replied:
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- RA>When Catullus writes about sex in blatantly obscene terms, his intent is to
- >shock the reader. And those words *were* obscene and shocking to the general
- >public.
- RA>So I, for one, disagree that it is an over-reading.
-
-
- If that is the case, let's overread Catullus' sparrow some more ... if
- she is masturbating, clearly the line `cui primum digitum dare
- appetenti/et acris solet incitare morsus' (rough translation: to whom
- she used to give her index finger to peck and to incite sharp pecks) is
- an autoerotic example of Freud's `vagina dentata' theory and as such,
- Catullus in this poem is merely expressing that well-known fear of the
- `vagina dentata' in poetic form. Now, let's consider the passer's
- reappearance in Catullus three, where the passer has died. Here the
- passer has moved from frolicking in Lesbia's bosom (in sinu, in poem
- 2) to her lap (poem 3). Here Catullus is clearly marvelling at
- Lesbia's flexibility in masturbation (sed circumsiliens modo huc modo
- illuc/ad solam dominam usque pipiabat: `hopping now here, now there,
- it used to chirp to its mistress alone), but, alas, the passer died.
- Clearly, in her masturbatory fervour, Lesbia did some damage: no doubt
- she became bedridden as all our Victorian predecessors warned us.
-
- That's the problem with literature -- it's just too darned easy to
- take it to its illogical extreme. Lesbia masturbating? I think not.
-
- David Meadows
- Department of Classics
- McMaster University
- Hamilton, Ontario
- CANADA
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