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- From: IN%"QUAKER-P@UIUCVMD.BITNET" "Quaker concerns related to peace and soci
- al justice issues" 12-DEC-1992 12:16:30.28
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- Subj: US VIET VET SERBIA/CROATIA REPORT
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- Subject: US VIET VET SERBIA/CROATIA REPORT
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- /* Written 8:52 pm Dec 11, 1992 by wrlmilitary@igc.apc.org in igc:yugo.antiwar
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- /* ---------- "US VIET VET SERBIA/CROATIA REPORT" ---------- */
- GREGG PAYTON'S BRIEF REPORT ON HIS SERBIA/CROATIA TOUR, TO THE
- (U.S.) WAR RESISTERS LEAGUE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE NOV. 4, 1992, NEW YORK.
- A more detailed story of Gregg's trip is expected in the League's NONVIO-
- LENT ACTIVIST for Jan.-Feb. 93, and likely be posted in conf:wri.news.
-
- Gregg's first stop was in Vienna where he met with refugees from Serbia
- and with some deserters. He was surprised that with all their problems,
- many were interested in learning about what happened in Los Angeles.
- From there he went to Belgrade. On the way his train was stopped at the
- Hungarian border where he was questioned. When he showed his American
- passport, there was no problem. He became aware of the prestige that an
- American passport has. In Belgrade he met some people involved in the
- peace movement who appeared to be burnt out by all the problems of refu-
- gees, not knowing exactly what was going on, and all the hatred on both
- sides. Gregg saw that they had little knowledge of how to organize and
- rally the people. There is no fighting in Belgrade, but the population
- is very tense. The Serbians seem to be denying inside themselves what is
- going on. They feel they must support their government even though they
- may be critical of what is going on. Sanctions are hurting them -- no
- gasoline, food shortages, inflation. They don't feel part of the war and
- don't understand why they should have to suffer.
-
- Gregg appeared on local TV and was interviewed on radio shows. Gregg
- found that there was no real relationship between veterans and the peace
- people as there is in the US.
-
- After Belgrade, Gregg went on to Novi Sad where he met two women who had
- set up a post-traumatic stress clinic. He had a chance to exchange with
- them ideas and experiences. He found the people very confused on what
- was going on. Everyone had a different explanation of what they thought
- was going on.
-
- On to Zagreb where Gregg saw many refugees and veterans suffering from
- post-traumatic stress. The peace movement people are overworked in the
- refugee camps. One senses trauma in the whole society. It seems
- everyone smokes and the use of alcohol is excessive. There is a general
- feeling of helplessness.
-
- In Croatia the people want the US to provide guns to kill Serbs; in
- Serbia they want sanctions lifted.
-
- Gregg went on to Zagreb where he spoke to disabled veterans (Croatians).
- Most of the questions were about why didn't the US give them guns to
- fight the Serbians. In speaking to them, Gregg spoke about his own ex-
- periences and how he felt about the Vietnam war and his opposition to
- war. Though they didn't oppose Gregg's position, they were more con-
- cerned about their own problems -- the need for more guns. Many in Ser-
- bia and Croatia are opposed to the war but they fear saying anything to
- indicate they are not supporting their government. Because of national
- feeling they are proud to have their own government and therefore they
- must support it.
-
- Gregg went back to Vienna where the peace people are helping deserters.
- He attended a large meeting with deserters and refugees. A veteran while
- talking about his experiences and the atrocities suddenly flipped out.
- The people didn't know how to handle the situation. Gregg had a long
- dialogue with the veteran using his Vietnam experiences and brought the
- veteran "back". The journalists present were so moved by this that they
- made it the center of their coverage.
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