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- From: awb@ed.ac.uk (Alan W Black)
- Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
- Subject: Re: INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST
- Message-ID: <AWB.92Dec16072619@otter.uk.ac.ed.aisb>
- Date: 16 Dec 92 07:26:19 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: terry@cs.weber.edu's message of 14 Dec 92 18:50:28 GMT
-
- In article <1992Dec14.185028.9757@fcom.cc.utah.edu> terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:
-
- > I know a lot of the Japaneese 386BSD community can not email out of Japan,
- > so this is an open letter to them, and to Atsushi MURAI and other people
- > there who are active in this newsgroup.
- >
- > What kind of internationalization would best enable you to use 386BSD?
- >
- > o Kanji support?
- > o Kana (Katakan/Hirugana) support?
-
- I have a keen interest (and moderate capability) in the Japanese
- language. Since getting 386bsd 0.1 up and running I have been
- running MULE (Multi-language Emacs) on my machine (as
- well as on our departmental machines). Mule is distributed as a set of
- patches to emacs-18.58 and is, of course, GNU Copylefted. It offers
- a multilanguage environment under X (fonts are available) or under
- terminals which support those languages.
-
- Mule supports Japanese (output and input). Input is through Wnn
- a kana/kanji convertor (which accepts romaji or kana input). It
- the input method is (I am told) compatible with ATOK which is
- used on a large number of word processors. Mule also has support
- for Chinese (with a large variety of input methods) offering
- both Mandarin and Taiwanese fonts. Also there is good support for
- Korean. Other languages that are supported in Mule are all
- the major European languages, including Greek, and Russian. There
- is also alpha support for Vietnamese, Hebrew and Thai.
-
- Mule is developed mainly by Kenichi Handa (handa@etl.go.jp) of ETL
- Laboratories and there is an active mail-list (though its mainly in
- Japanese). Mule is still in beta test but version 0.9.6 (which is
- quite stable) is available by anonymous ftp from
-
- etlport.etl.go.jp [192.31.197.99]:/pub/mule
- sh.wide.ad.jp [133.4.11.11]:/JAPAN/mule
-
- Mule does not use unicode for fonts but does use international
- standards for its character representation and tries to use
- standard input methods (and representations) for the languages
- it supports.
-
- On another tract there is TeX support or Chinese and Japanese
- freely available for ftp.
-
- >
- > What is currently used on PCs (with their limited character sets) in Japan?
- >
-
- Well the important thing to know about the Japanese PC market is
- that there is not really an IBM PC clone market. The most popular
- computer series is the NEC 98 series, it is not IBM PC compatiable though
- it is a very similar machine. It runs Japanese MSDOS which is essentially
- the same but low-level registers etc are slightly different. I don't
- know if 386bsd has been ported to the 98 series yet but as I'm
- moving to Japan next year I would be interested if anyone could
- tell me its status.
-
- On NEC 98 the most popular Wordprocessor is Ichi-Taro but most people
- use a dedicated word-processor rather than a general PC. Input is
- done through a kana-kanji convertor allowing the user to type in
- kana or romaji (roman alphabet). In spite of me taking some time to
- learn the kana layout, I now use romaji for input, as it seems most
- Japanese people do. This is probably because some computers do not
- have kana markings on the keyboard.
-
- In summary I think that there is little required to extend 386bsd
- for internationalization, or at least only as much as any other
- Unix. If unicode is going to be standard then we do need
- more tools, but currently with Mule (or the older Nemacs), kterm,
- kinput, JTeX etc there is already reasonable support. There are other
- tools which may be useful (e.g. grep, sort etc) but these are
- little to do with 386bsd but the wider Unix community.
-
- Japanese filenames I suppose may be useful but I'm not sure they are
- worth the trouble, though others may disagree.
-
- Alan
-
- Alan W Black 2 Buccleuch Place, Edinburgh, UK
- Centre for Cognitive Science tel: (+44) -31 650 4627
- University of Edinburgh email: awb@ed.ac.uk
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