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- From: nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu (Nicholas C. Weaver (The Weeniehead))
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
- Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
- Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:02:25 GMT
- Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
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- Why do people make the assumption that NeXT will actually put out a
- box based on the Intel chip? I doubt NeXT would make hardware that is in
- direct competition with the cut-rate clones. NeXT will always have it's
- flagship computers, and will probably keep churning out Moto 680x0 based
- machines in Freemont. The NeXTstep 486 will most likely be sold to those
- who bought the wrong computer in the first place, or to clone-makers who
- will package it preinstalled or something like that. There is NO reason for
- NeXT to produce 80x86 based machines! Sell the OS on them, yes, but build
- them? Yes, the moto CPUs are more expensive, and yes, they are generally
- better, but that cost difference is about $100/machine. It does get
- signifcant with large numbers, but then NeXT hasn't been involved in major
- price wars. If it was an Intel based computer, it might be a different
- story. It's hard to get away with niceties like DSP's, super
- power-supplies, CPU to printer connection etc... on an architecture where
- price is just about the ONLY thing that the buyer really looks at. A //
- machine would be a different story. (I could deal with a nice 3+ 486
- machine from NeXT), because there isn't the real cuthroatness among the //
- machines, and they can be really nice. (I'm logging in through Soda, a 20
- processor Sequent on the Berkeley Campus. 20 386's make for a really nice
- multi-user multi-purpose machine).
-
- Also, the r4000 is a nice chip, (64 bit processor and everthing,
- although it's pinouts make it look like a real porcupine), but is SGI
- letting it out? SGI owns Mips now, and so they effectively controll the
- supply of the r4000. Is there currently ANY non-sgi machine that uses the
- r4000?
-
- Furthermore, is the Alpha available to other vendors? The same goes
- for the POWER chip. And, as for SPARC, NeXT would do better with the same
- tactic as the Intel chips, an OS for those who bought the wrong machine.
-
- -Nick.
-
- p.s. When I say "wrong machine", I mean that the OS/Architecture
- combination doesn't really work for the job that they want it to do, but
- NeXTstep corrects that problem.
- --
- Nicholas C. Weaver nweaver@soda.berkeley.edu
- It is a tale, told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, .signifying nothing.
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