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- From: ovrskeek@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (I am the OVER-skeek!)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
- Subject: Re: 100 Mips Intel NeXT.
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- Date: 12 Dec 92 00:55:52 GMT
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- songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:
-
- >Still, Intel drives volumes high enough that while their chips may not be
- >the fastest per transistor, they are often the fastest per dollar. Economy
- >of Scale is very important here. (Hence the reason NeXT didn't go with the
- >88k.) Next is not in the super fast workstation market -- they are in the
- >desktop market. They need a processor base that has a reasonable tradeoff
- >between speed and price. Motorola cannot not even keep up with Intel in terms
- >of chip speeds and Intel lags the Riscs by about a year.
-
- I may be going out a limb here, but :-) ....
-
- I seem to remeber reading in comp.arch a price comparision in which the
- r4000 was cheaper than the 486! (cpu's only). How much do you think intel
- is going to gouge for a P5? Whats availability going to be like? How
- long after the release until they get the bugs out?
-
- These other chips are available now! If its really going to take until 3rd
- quarter 93 to get NS486 out, why not do another port, but to a real chip?
- Then NeXT could announce NS486 as the low end machine, and one with some
- real speed as the base NeXT hardware!
-
- >Next could adopt a "low volume" high performance Risc architecture, but they
- >would have to abandon the low end of the market. The Pentium will sell well and
- >run far faster than the current 68040 based machines. It will be out probably
- >a year before the 68060 and Next has already done a significant amount of
- >porting work to the family. The 80486 is already out and running at higher
- >speeds than the 68040. The silicon is probably cheaper.
-
- I agree, Moto has blown it. No way should NeXT stay with the 68xxx line.
- Too bad, because the 68xxx is *WAY* better than the x86. Moto, what happened?
-
- >The 80x86 dominates the applications markets. It will have a huge market for
- >the next decade at least. There is too much development invested in it for it
- >to go away overnight. If Next stays with Moto's 68K they will perform like a dog
- >for the next year and a half. If they go to a Risc like the R4000 or the 88K
- >they are commiting to paying premium prices for their processors and doing a port to
- >an architecture that does not have an installed base to insure its survival.
- >Their choices seem quite limited and the Intel line seems the best. It is ready
- >soon, the work for a "complete" port has been going on for some time, it is
- >going to be cheap and there will be a "next chip" in the family.
-
- Yes, I agree that the x86 has a huge market. It has too much invested to just
- dry up.
-
- But huge market has never been what NeXT was all about! Yes, there is
- stability in the x86, but it is old news, old technology. Where is the
- future? Not with the x86. NeXT has always led the way, with innovative
- software and hardware. Where has the dream of new horizions gone? Anybody
- can follow the leader. Why wont NeXT lead anymore?
-
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