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- From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead)
- Subject: Re: History was made today...
- Message-ID: <BzH55v.13u@world.std.com>
- Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
- References: <BzGoBt.Guw@ccu.umanitoba.ca> <1gtac9INN9qk@transfer.stratus.com>
- Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:32:19 GMT
- Lines: 75
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- jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
-
- >In article <BzGoBt.Guw@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca
- >(Connie Cho) writes:
- >> This leads to a question which I have had since I heard about IBM's
- >> proposed cutbacks: just what are Gateway, Dell, etc. without a
- >strong,
- >> at least somewhat innovative IBM? I was under the impression that
- >> most PC R&D is done by IBM. Just how viable is the clone industry
- >now
- >> that IBM is in trouble? Come to that, just HOW much trouble is IBM
- >> in? Surely it isn't in as bad shape as Wang ended up in !?
- >>
-
- >I don't think IBM has been the leader in innovation for years.
- >Most of the newest technology, high-end VGA, graphics accelerator
- >cards, multi-media enhancements, local bus, etc. have NOT
- >come from IBM but from clone manufacturers or board
- >manufacturers. The clone industry will stay very viable
- >with IBM in trouble. Most people in buying a PC don't even
- >think of IBM, they just think PC.
-
- One thing that is lucky for the IBM compatible marketplace is that programs
- aren't directly concerned about Bus designs. There has been a lot of
- incompatible bus designs in MS-DOS machines (Tandy, laptops, etc.) that
- switching to Local-Bus doesn't have any impact on software, only future
- hardware expansion. (And since local bus standards are coming quickly
- and many vendors are making local bus boards, local bus may be an
- advantage in the long run.)
-
- Video standards are one good example of where IBM did some of its last
- innovation, and where the multi-vendor MS-DOS/IBM-Compatible solution
- falls apart. When IBM released machines with the VGA video standard,
- VGA support was soon added to most programs and many ISA based third
- party cards were developed. When video above VGA's 320x200x256 (or
- 640x480x16) were needed each company went its own way. The result?
- Few developers program anything above standard VGA modes, and standards
- organizations like VESA trying to create a standard interface that still
- supports the lowest common denominator. (One example of a "super-VGA" game
- is Links-386 which includes VESA VGA drivers for many VGA chipsets with
- the hope that one of them will match the users VGA card.)
-
- The one thing that might save the MS-DOS market from lack of innovation
- winds up being Windows. If the nifty new video accelerator has a Windows
- driver (and if the video manufacturer is going to make one driver, it would
- be for Windows (if making two, the next might be AutoCAD)) and the user
- is doing all of their work in Windows. The user may buy the accelerator.
- Unfortunately, so far, this has required more support for the hardware
- manufacturers than has been required when making IBM-Compatible (instead of
- Window compliant) parts. Drivers so far have needed to be updated between
- Windows releases, and the hardware developers then have to play catch up with
- their software.
-
- ObMac statement:
- This winds up being similar to the Mac video setup, except the drivers
- are in ROM on the board. It is also why I feel that Mac vs. Windows arguments
- can be valid. (Although when finding myself in a discussion like this, I
- find the other person switching between Windows ("Ease of Use", "Hardware
- Independence") and MS-DOS ("Software Available", "Machines Sold"))
-
- Apple doesn't have these problems, theirs are more in software compatability.
- (Microsoft has managed to convince many developers to completely re-vamp
- and create Windows products, Apple has done more for kludging to help
- most programs stay compatible in most cases based on 1985-1986 vintage
- documentation (Inside Macintosh) Has anybody but me ever noticed the
- similarity between TopView/DESQview/Windows .PIF files and the Mac SIZE
- resource? I guess our change to start fresh will be with Pink. (But
- what happens if Apple/IBM through the Pink party and nobody comes?)
-
- >--
- >Jim Mann
- >Stratus Computer jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
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