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Info-Mac Digest             Tue, 15 Dec 92       Volume 10 : Issue 297

Today's Topics:

      [*] After Dark PICS Player Santa
      [*] ARA modem script
      [*] Christmas Carol stack
      [*] Christmas sysbeeps
      [*] date.hqx
      [*] despair.hqx
      [*] FileMaker_Contacts+1.0.hqx
      [*] finderappmenu1.1.1.sea.hqx
      [*] hierpopup.cpt.hqx
      [*] newswatcher1.3d6
      [*] Princess Bride Sounds, grp. 1
      [*] Progression v1.5 solitaire submission
      [*] RamDisk+137.sit.hqx
      [*] Stripper_09b1.sit.hqx
      * Nuntius1.1.1d15
      128K Mac and old systems
      512k
      [FWD] EtherNet Suggestions
      AccessPC vs. PC Exchange
      A game is a demo
      ATARI-Mac exhange: thanks for help
      Autodoubler Woes
      autodoubler woes (A)
      Cheap PB100 in Bay Area?
      Curve Fit
      curve fitting (A)
      Facility/resource scheduling program wanted
      FoxBase+
      HPGL Driver (Q and A)
      Hypertext magazine
      IIvx/performa 600
      Image files
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #296
      Investment Tracker 1.0 - Can't quit!
      keboard extension cable
      LCII v. LCIII
      looking for version control software
      Mac 512s
      MacLayers and System 7
      Mathematica - Deskwriter bug
      Medical office management package wanted
      Modem advise
      Modem Woes (R)
      More on Apple's (Non) Use of FPUs in New Macs
      Need help with an ImageWriter I
      Partitioning PB Hard Disk
      PowerPC with Taligent OS vs DEC Alpha with Windows NT
      risk-ii.hqx
      RTF Specs
      Save As... operations under System 7, destination folder
      Self-extracting segmented archives
      Software for 128K Mac
      StuffitDeluxe3.0.3
      Style and Desk Writers
      Stylewriter vs. HP Deskwriter (some answers)
      Sys 7.1 wctb resource layout?

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:28:19 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] After Dark PICS Player Santa

An After Dark PICS Player document for the holiday season.

Santa's sleigh pulled by Rudolph with flashing red nose flys
in front of the moon.  -- Have a Merry and a Happy

[Archived as /info-mac/util/ad/after-dark-santa.hqx; 53K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:12:13 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Andrew Miller)
Subject: [*] ARA modem script

Dear Post People,
Please post this Appletalk Remote Access Modem Script (Info-mac/comm).  I
recieved it Twincom for use with their 14.4k V.32/V.42bis modems.  Thank
you.

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/ara-twincom-v32bis.hqx; 24K]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:29:24 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Christmas Carol stack

Randy Valentine and his daughter Whitney Anne deserve the credit for
debugging, cleaning up and improving this HyperCard 2.1 stack of nine
well-known Christmas carols played by one of your choice of six
instruments.  Nice holiday graphics and lyrics included.

An undocumented feature: hold down the option key while selecting "The
First Noel" and the stack will continue playing carols consecutively.

   -- Have a Merry and a Happy

[Archived as /info-mac/card/carol-stack.hqx; 164K]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:30:31 EST
From: Murph Sewall <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Christmas sysbeeps

A Sound Mover suitcase containing  very short snippets of thirteen
Christmas songs suitable for sysbeeps (for example, designate the whole
suitcase with SndControl's randomize function.  Sound Mover and
SndControl can be found in
/info-mac/sound/program/sound-manager-package-176.hqx

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/christmas-snds.hqx; 351K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:08:33 PST
From: [e-mail] (Info-Mac Moderator)
Subject: [*] date.hqx

This Freeware cdev is for formatting the date in applications that use
the long and abbreviated date formats, such as WriteNow for Macintosh.
Feel free to give it to anyone and everyone. Please do not alter or sell it.
Written to help WriteNow users by Andy Jeffrey
Copyright 1988, 1990, 1992 T/Maker Company. All rights reserved.

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/date.hqx; 9K]

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Date: 13 Dec 92 23:20:42 AST
From: "Mike McKay" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] despair.hqx

Despair is a game that asks the question, "What's it like to be a
jealous god?" Now you can unleash your rage on legions of tiny,
terrified, near-helpless computer-people in twelve different ways.
Vent that violent impulse in a socially acceptable and System-7-
compatible manner.

Despair is a BinHex'ed, Compact Pro'ed postcardware program from Lloyd
Burchill.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/dispair.hqx; 145K]

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Date: 14 Dec 92 15:36:23 U
From: "Andrew Lee" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] FileMaker_Contacts+1.0.hqx

CONTACTS+ Filemaker Pro database version 1.0
(Improvements to Contacts 1.3).
(c) 1992 Andrew Lee. All rights reserved.
email: [e-mail]

The Contacts+ database is used in conjunction with Microsoft Word for
print-merging correspondence documents.
Contacts will eliminate problems with missing portions of the address such
as...

Prof Jan Michaels
School of Information and Computing Sciences
Bond University
(blank line because of missing district)
(blank line because of missing state)
Australia 4229

Note: You must have FileMaker Pro version 2.x before you can use Contacts+.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/filemaker-pro-contacts-plus.hqx; 26K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:30:58 -0500
From: "Scott E. Lasley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] finderappmenu1.1.1.sea.hqx

This is Finder Application Menu version 1.1.1, downloaded from

Compuserve.  Here is the author's description:

  FinderAppMenu is an Init for System 7 which creates a menu in the Finder

showing all of your applications.  You can run any one by selecting it off
the

menu.  Version 1.1.1 fixes some problems in version 1.1 which sometimes
resulted

in out of memory conditions in the Finder and sometimes caused the
applications

menu to appear in front of the Apple menu in other  applications.

  A Self Extracting Archive

[Archived as /info-mac/ex/finder-app-menu-111.hqx; 31K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:23:21 -0800
From: Jon Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] hierpopup.cpt.hqx

Here is an update to my hierachical menu popup XCMD for Hypercard.  This
revision (2.9) increases the number of menu items to 300 for really obnoxious
popups and removes the special meaning for the / character so that it can
now appear in menu items.  You can also use ( in menus also, although if it
is the first character then it still means to disable the item.

This is also on ftp.apple.com in /pub/pugh/hyperstuff/hierpopup.cpt.hqx

Jon

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/hierpopup.hqx; 53K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:47:10 EST
From: [e-mail] (Thomas R. Blake)
Subject: [*] newswatcher1.3d6

Folks,

    Find here enclosed the latest development version of NewsWatcher.
(Version 1.3d6)  It would appear from the about box that Steve Falkenburg
is no longer supporting this fine old usenet news-reader, however the list
of people credited with modifications looks formidable.

    I am not one of the authors, I don't even know them.  I'm not a beta
tester, I have nothing whatsoever to do with this product.  I am simply a
humble user.  Many thanks to Steve for his original work, and to the folks
who have been updating it.

                        Tom Blake
                        Binghamton University

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/news-watcher-13d6.hqx; 90K]

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Date: 13 Dec 1992 22:43:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: GREG HINSON <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Princess Bride Sounds, grp. 1

Here's the first of four groups of sounds sampled from the movie
"Princess Bride." All of them are in the System 7 format, and
are recorded in a very high quality 22kHz. If you enjoy them,
drop me a note to let me know. Included in this submission are:
"Hello!", "Land mass", "Large women", "Perfect breasts", and
"R.O.U.S.'s".

                Greg Hinson
                Medical College of Virginia

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/princess-bride-grp1.hqx; 674K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:44:20 CST
From: [e-mail] (Michael Wolf)
Subject: [*] Progression v1.5 solitaire submission

Below is a binhexed self extracting archive for Progression v1.5
solitaire.  There have been a few bug fixes and how to contact
me has been updated.

Thanks.

Michael

[Archived as /info-mac/game/progression-solitaire-15.hqx; 97K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:28:43 -0500
From: "Scott E. Lasley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] RamDisk+137.sit.hqx

This is RamDisk+ version 1.3.7, downloaded from Compuserve.  Here are the

author's notes:

  Latest Version of popular RAMDISK+, shareware by Roger Bates. Many
  features,

including: >Automatially creates a RAMdisk and copies over files  and
folders.

>Automatic copy back of modified/new files to the startup  volume.  (enabled
on

registration) > Compatible with System 7, System 6, and  MultiFinder. >Will

recognize up to 128 Megs of memory even when the Finder  only  recognizes 8

Megs. Works with HFS file systems as early as 512KE

[Archived as /info-mac/util/ram-disk-plus-317.hqx; 62K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:29:23 -0500
From: "Scott E. Lasley" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Stripper_09b1.sit.hqx

This is Stripper version 0.9b1, downloaded from Compuserve.  Here are the
author's notes:
  Stripper is a drag-and-drop program for System 7 (only).  It removes,  and
replaces, line feed characters from files.  Use it with programs like  Apple's
PC Exchange to remove line feeds from DOS files.  Offered as  postcardware.
Compressed with Stuffit Lite 3.0.1.

[Archived as /info-mac/util/stripper-09b1.hqx; 31K]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:19:31 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Bill Jenkins)
Subject: * Nuntius1.1.1d15

This was put out by the author of Nuntius:

>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:01:33 -0500
>From: [e-mail] (Peter Speck)
>Subject: WARNING: DON'T USE d14 OR d15: CAN TRASH DISK
>
>I'm very sorry about this, but d14 (I think) and d15 (sure) got
>a very fatal bug:
>When Nuntius tries to open a group which name is longer than 29 chars,
>it splits the name into a folder name, and a filename inside that folder.
>
>This function has a fatal bug: it never ends, but continues
>to create folders inside each other. If this process is aborted
>with cmd-opt-esc, trashing the filesystem has a high probability.
>
>The bug was introduced due to some reordering in the code.
>(and allowing local variables in C/C++ to have the same name as
>one in an outer scope)
>
>I have fixed this bug, but is unable to make d16 available until
>Wednesday, or even later if my cold gets worse.
>
>Peter Speck

Maybe the moderators would like to remove it? :)
BillJ


Bill Jenkins     [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:17 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: 128K Mac and old systems

    I didn't respond to this theme earlier because I figured that
there would be a hoard of responses.
    At least one of the compact disks included in the early issues of
Develop magazine included images of system software going back to time
before zero. My recollection is that the earliest system version on
that disk is 0.2. (Do you want to see the mountains again?) What a
great historic record!
    However, please don't ask me for copies. First of all, I have to
use a collegue's computer and CD drive to read my own CDs. Secondly,
it is not clear to me that I can distribute Apple system software to
others, so therefore I won't. If the moderators know of a proper
solution, I will help. However, there are lots of other subscribers to
info-mac that are better informed and better able to respond than am
I.

    -Mel Park
    Univ. Tenn, Memphis

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:13:37 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: 512k

First of all, I'd like to say thanks to all those who sent replies to my
query on upgrading a Mac 512k.  They were very helpful.

But, I've decided that instead of upgrading my 512k, I'm fix it up and
keep it as a historical piece.  So, I've got a few questions that I hope
someone can answer:

 1) When was the 512k released?

 2) What are the earliest and latest versions of the System software that
    will run on the 512k?

 3) At the time of it's release, what major applications and what versions of
    these programs would be likely to be found running on a 512k?  Where
    can I get a hold of these versions?

 4) Is there a "PhoneNet" type of connector that would allow a 512k to
    connect to an AppleTalk network?  If so, where could I get a hold of one?

 5) The keyboard and keypad are missing one key each.  Where could I get
    replacement keys?

Many thanks in advance for the help!

                Ken

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:46:05 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [FWD] EtherNet Suggestions

Original rejected for unknown reasons.
>
>I have 28 MAC's ranging from SE's, SE30, CI's, CX's,
>FX, X', and a quadra 950 plus IBM compatibles and a couple
>of Sun Sparks.  I used mostly the Farallon Cards (EtherMAC)
>for the MAC's and the IBM's.  A transceiver from a company
>in Calif for the Sparc's.
>
>I ran ten separate runs of thin-net cable, connecting an average
>of six machines or printers on each leg (some more some less) backl
>to a Chipcomm concentrator.  The server and index feeds the Chipcom.
>
>Prices, well I get them GSA.  The chipcom comes for abut 1600,
>EtherMAC for about 250 and the Sun transcivers about 90.
>
>Hope that helps.
>>
>>I'm looking to convert a lab over to ethernet. The lab consists of
>>22 Mac IIcx machines. Does anyone have a suggestion on cards? How
>>cheap can I get away with? Also, has anyone been able to use Likewise
>>over an ethernet network to restore machines.
>>
>>One more thing... how compatible are the quadra machines ethernet to
>>the various ethernet cards?

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:35:46 PST
From: [e-mail] (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: AccessPC vs. PC Exchange

Insignia's AccessPC and Apple's Macintosh PC Exchange seem to do about the
same thing. Does anybody out there have any recommendations about which one
to get, preferably based on experience with both?

Thanks!
Herb K.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 12:40:39 EST
From: "A. Marsh Gardiner" <[e-mail]>
Subject: A game is a demo

Conrad Halling <[e-mail]> in IM Digest V10 #296 writes:
>/info-mac/game/centipede.hqx is actually a demo program, not a
>full-featured game.

  Actually, there are several apps/games that could be called "demos."
Kung-fu Chivalry comes to mind; it only allows play through level one
without registration.  (I consider that a demo)

  I find that the /demo directory is often difficult to sort through
because of the wide variety of programs that live there (i.e. games, comm,
etc.).  Perhaps these "demo" files could be sorted into the various
directories that they would otherwise fall into, were they not demos?  "Demo"
could be added to the name to distinguish these from fully featured programs.

Just my opinion of course.
Kudos to the people who keep all this stuff in line!

Marsh

_____________
Marsh Gardiner       [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:36:24 CET
From: "Willem N. Ellis" <[e-mail]>
Subject: ATARI-Mac exhange: thanks for help

Hello to all,

some weeks ago I asked this list for help. I needed to convert a number of
ATARI based files to the Mac. As several kind people learned me the trick
is surprisingly easy. Although ATARI has its own disk format, it also is able
to read/write to (normal density) IBM-formatted disks. These, of course,
can be fed in turn to a Mac's superdrive.

Sincere thanks for the quick and helpful response I got!

Willem

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:09:18 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Bruce Stephenson)
Subject: Autodoubler Woes

[e-mail] writes:
...material deleted...
>because of course FileSaver was not turned on (it conflicts with
>AutoDoubler).  Some statements by Fifth Generation imply that File
>Saver is superfluous if you have AutoDoubler.  Don't believe it.

Actually, I believe they imply that File Saver is superfluous if
you make regular backups of your disk.  ;^)
(I personally have chosen Autodoubler over File Saver, but it sure
would be nice if they could work together.)

Usual disclaimer.

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Date: Tue 15 Dec 92 11:51:25-HST
From: Harold Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: autodoubler woes (A)

Re: Paul Brians problem trying to recover AD files from a crashed drive
with Norton's Filesaver NOT running.
Well, Paul, my hard drive crashed 3 weeks ago, and Filesaver WAS running.
It did recover most of it, but 99% of the recovered files had NO NAME
and NO CREATOR (I'm talking about 100's of files). Many were also damaged.
I had to spend many, many hours double clicking on each of them and
trying to figure out what each was.  Very frustrating. A long call to two
different Norton technicians revealed the awful truth: Norton will
not recover AD files. They said that Norton is talking to Salient about
this problem. Strange that no mention is made in either doc aboutt his
serious problem.
Harold Miller
[e-mail]
 ------

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:36:32 CST
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Cheap PB100 in Bay Area?

I'll be visiting the Bay Area next week; does anyone know if PB100 can be
had for under $700? Do any local Price Savers still have them? Thanks in
advance. Eric.

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:08 EST
From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Curve Fit

To whomever it may concern:  Cricket Graph from is another software able to do
R^2 curve fits.  Whether it is better, I don't know as I haven't used
DeltaGraph.Sincerely, ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:16:18 -0500
From: [e-mail]
Subject: curve fitting (A)

In article <[e-mail]>, BILL SIMPSON
<[e-mail]> writes:
>By the way,
>this is called "nonlinear regression" in the statistical literature,
>if you want to look up some books on the subject (e.g. Ratkowsky).
[...]
>You can also use [...] SAS JMP.

A few notes about JMP's Nonlinear Fit capabilities:

* You can fit a formula of more than one variable.

* You can provide as many parameters as you want.

* You can provide a custom loss function.

* You can use either Gauss-Newton or Newton-Raphson methods (2nd deriv.).

* JMP will automatically calculate all required analyitical derivatives for
you.

* JMP lets you interact with the fitting process--you can change the number
of iterations, the criteria for convergence, and the parameter estimate
starting values at any time.

* You can view the fit in progress on a scatter plot as Nonlinear Fit
iterates.

* You can explore the error of nearby solutions by generating a grid table
of sum of squares error values.


JMP also does lots of linear fits, which are much more automatic. You can
fit means, lines, polys up to the 6th degree, splines, and density
ellipses. You can also plot confidence curves for all these fits.

Contact me directly if you want more info!
--Michael

Michael P. Hecht                 | Internet:  [e-mail]
SAS Institute Inc.; Cary, NC USA | AppleLink: SAS.HECHT

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:11:08 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Facility/resource scheduling program wanted

Greetings all,

I need to find a new scheduling program for use in our facility.  We have, up
to this point, been using a product called Front Desk, but it is apparently no
longer supported.  Additionally, we have been having some trouble with it and
want to move to something a bit more functional.

We need to schedule equipment and facilities such as editing rooms, studios,
multimedia classrooms, satellite uplink and downlink facilities and so on.  We
need to generate reports of what is going on when, and be able to query the
system for open times.

I'm hoping there is something off the shelf that will work well, because
otherwise I'm being drafted to write a 4D database to do it...  Please help me
before I code again.

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:07:55 EST
From: Clinton Collins <[e-mail]>
Subject: FoxBase+

Would those of you who have intimate experience with FoxBase+ please
send me your praises or criticisms of this product.  I am especially
interested in how well it works across MS-DOS and Mac platforms and
how well it deals with picture fields.  Also, if anyone knows how I
could use a macintosh to take tempature readings outside of my home I
would love to hear about it.

Send replies to Clinton Collins, [e-mail]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 10:20 CST
From: <[e-mail]>
Subject: HPGL Driver (Q and A)

[Q-part]
    For years I've read postings on info-mac that ask, in various
ways, how to plot to an HPLG (Hewlett-Packard Graphics Language)
device. I'm embarassed that I never paid attention to any responses
that the net might have provided, now that I have the same problem and
only a partial solution:

[A-part]
    I just assumed that I would find an HPGL driver in the info-mac
archives. So far I haven't.
    In my own archive I found "MacPlot Driver" which I received with
MacDraw II, version 1.0. It seems to be exactly what I need, except
that I could not get its configuring application, "MacPlot Configure"
to work on my IIfx at work. Okay, this driver and/or its configuring
application (a non-Mac combination) are not System 7 compatible. I can
work around that. However, I also happen to have bought a separate
license for MacDraw Pro (rather than upgrade MacDraw II). MacDraw Pro
has remained on the shelf because I was initially dismayed by is
slowness, but I did presume that a System 7 compatible means of
printing to a plotter would have been included, i.e. that a MacDraw II
feature would not have been thrown away. No such luck, "MacPlot
Driver" has disappeared in the newer product.
    Anyway, I have my work-around and I don't really care about what
is behind all of this. (It is up to the device-makers, not Apple or
Claris, to provide drivers to their products.) Maybe this discussion
is of some use to others.
    I still am searching for a generic solution, though.

        -Mel Park
        Univ. Tenn, Memphis

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 02:15:13 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Hypertext magazine

Has anyone heard of HyperLink Magazine? I understand it was
published about 1988, focusing on Hypertext? I'm curious to
find out if its still being published. Thanks, Pete Tamas
[e-mail], Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:15:22 EST
From: David W. Jarrett <[e-mail]>
Subject: IIvx/performa 600

Two questions (that have probably been discussed here before, but ...):

1. Is there _any_ difference between the Mac IIvx and the Performa 600?
Hardware?  Software (besides System 7.1P and bundles software)?  While a vx
5/80 goes for about $2600 at the cheapest mailorder places, a 600 5/120
can be had for $1999 at Office Max (a NE office product superstore)!! What
gives??  A less drastic difference holds for a model with CD ($2900 vs
$2500).

2. Does the VRAM from an LC work in a vx/600?  I haven't seen the specific
module for a vx/600 advertised anywhere, although the modules for the LC
($60!)
and Quadras seem easy to come by.

Thanks for your help.

David Jarrett

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:33:51 +0000
From: LTB Wright <[e-mail]>
Subject: Image files

I'm sure this qualifies as a FAQ, but how do you use an image file?  I'm
trying to use the new Quicktime image file.

Brian Wright
[e-mail]

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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:05:16 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Tony Huang)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #296

>From: Paul Brians <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Autodoubler Woes (C)
>
>I recently bought the upgrade to AutoDoubler and have since had some
>unhappy experiences.  I foolishly compressed all kinds of stuff in
>my System Folder with the new AutoDoubler Internal Compressor, which
>issues dire but frustratingly vague warnings about what may or may
>not work compressed.  My internal hard disk almost immediately
>began having problems, then went belly-up and had to be reinitialized.
>Needless to say, I did not use AIC on the restored volume.

It is very risky to compress INITs with AD internal compressor or MDS
resource comressor. Both Fifth Generation System and Alysis should be
forthcoming about the danger of compressing INITs.

>Then, in for I think unrelated causes, my external 105 meg drive
>died in a big way and could not be recovered by Norton Utilities
>because of course FileSaver was not turned on (it conflicts with
>AutoDoubler).  Some statements by Fifth Generation imply that File
>Saver is superfluous if you have AutoDoubler.  Don't believe it.
>AutoDoubler saved nothing.  I am almost certain that if I had had
>FileSaver installed, I would not now be sending my hard drive back
>to the manufacturer and losing all the work I've put in on a
>newsletter I was trying to get out before Christmas.

I'm not sure what FileSaver could have done if your hard disk died in a big
way as you suggested. The information saved by FileSaver could be wiped out
also. BTW, FileSaver is known to have problem with MANY INITs and
applications. If data integrity is of paramount concern to you, back up
your hard disk regularly - it's the only way.

>I'm not necessarily blaming AutoDoubler for my problems; but I've
>decided I can live in more cramped disk quarters if I can only
>keep FileSaver.  Anybody want to buy an almost new copy of
>AutoDoubler?

Fifth Generation System offers a one year money back guarantee on all their
products regardless of where you bought them (provided you saved your
receipt).
Tony Huang
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 13:45:54 -0500
From: "Steve Marsh"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: Investment Tracker 1.0 - Can't quit!

The recently-submitted Investment Tracker doesn't allow one (well, me anyway)
to quit the program. I tried command-Q, command-H, command-m, command-period,
all to no avail. I'm running sys6.0.7 and HC2.1 on a IIci. Also, it doesn't
recalculate figures (e.g., # of shares) if a figure (e.g., total investment)
is edited. Finally, it would be nice (and I'd pay the shareware fee) if, in
addition to tweaking these bugs, it were possible to include a separate
commission category that goes into the tax basis, but is separate from the
recalculable investment/shares/price-per-share.

- Steve Marsh  "[e-mail]"   ;-)

------------------------------

Date: Tue 15 Dec 92 11:53:36-HST
From: Harold Miller <[e-mail]>
Subject: keboard extension cable

I recently bought a keyboard extension cable for my IIci from
MacWarehouse.  MAde by Kensington. Cost about $10-$15, I think.
HArold Miller
[e-mail]
 ------

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:49:16 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Kevin Munoz)
Subject: LCII v. LCIII

    What are the differences between the LCII and the up-and-coming LCIII
(due in February, as I understand it)?
    Also, what's the cheapest national place to get an LCII with an Apple
12" color monitor? I'm looking for an LCII 4/40 at least. At Oberlin College
I can get a 4/160 for $1800 or so (the 160megs would be nice). At Swarthmore,
about $1500 for a 4/40. What's the best price for the most space out there?
This is, of course, assuming the LCIII will be equally priced.


-Kevin Munoz
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:01:16 +0800
From: [e-mail] (Rick Jarvis)
Subject: looking for version control software

I'm looking for version control software. I recently downloaded Revisionist
1.4, but found it cumbersome to use since each archive contains only a
single file and its deltas. Any recommendations about other software which
will store multiple files and reverse deltas marked with a common revision
number? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

-- Rick Jarvis, Hong Kong Univ Sci & Tech, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 02:16:14 EST
From: Pete Tamas <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mac 512s

> From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
> Someone just gave me a 512k (w/ external floppy) in exchange for
installing
> an accelerator in his SE for him.  Good deal, huh? :)
>
I think so.

> Anyway, the question now is what to do with it.  Are there any good and
> cheap accelerators out there for the 512k?  What about old serial hard
> drives?  Any other suggestions?  Thanx in advance.
>
If I had the same opportunity, I would give or loan  it to my girlfriend
who has 2 elementary school aged children. Since I learned a lot about
Macintosh using a 512K, I imagine they could too.

As other people have almost certainly already replied (I'm VERY
behind on my mail!) your problem will be upgrading RAM, ROM
and drive space before you'd be interested in using it or accelarating
it. -Pete Tamas
[e-mail], Temple Univ, Philadelphia (betw New York & Wash DC)

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:41:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Linder <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacLayers and System 7

Greetings all...


The version of MacLayers on Sumex does not seem to be happy with system 7,
as far as I can tell...  Does anyone have a version that works with sys 7,
it would be greatly appreciated!

Also, I'm still looking for an Xwindows client that would work over a
modem to a NeXT system from my Mac SE (4/90)....

Thanks!

Jeff

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:06:06 -0700
From: Dave Wagner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Mathematica - Deskwriter bug

Hi netter,

   I've got Mathematica 2.1 (student version) running on my Powerbook 160
(System 7.1) and using the HP Deskwriter.  Can't print anything but a single
Mathematica "cell" using DW 3.1 driver.  Using 2.2, I can print a lot more.
Anybody seen this problem, and know what to do with it?

I can't do background printing with the 2.2 driver, it's a drag.

        Dave Wagner
        [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:06:12 -0700
From: Bruce Carter <[e-mail]>
Subject: Medical office management package wanted

Greetings all,

I'm doing a favor for a doctor in town who wants to Macintoshize his office.
He is looking for a medical office management package that will take care of
billing, scheduling, reminders, etc.  He doesn't want to put actual patient
records on the system, but wants it to basically handle all of the business,
scheduling, and reminder side of his practice.  I've requested a couple of
demo
disks from the listings in the Macintosh Product Guide, but have so far been
unimpressed with the quality.

Does anyone know of a good package that will run well on a Macintosh IIci 5/80
genre platform?  Memory, of course, can be upgraded if necessary, but the
basic
speed is a IIci with a cache card.

Thanks for any suggestions.
                     <->
Bruce Carter, CBI Product Development                [e-mail]
Simplot/Micron Instructional Technology Center       amccarte@idbsu (Bitnet)
Boise State University, Boise, ID  83725             [phone]@phone

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:17:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Stuart Greenfield <[e-mail]>
Subject: Modem advise

  A group of us on tenet.edu are looking into purchasing a 14.4 modem and
would appreciate any suggestions you can offer. We've received info and
prices from the following: FOCUS 14.4 FaxModem ($299), Twincom 14.4 Pro
($285), Zoom 14.4 ($270) and Supra 14.4 ($330). Let us know your
experience with the above or other 14.4 modems. Thanks and have a good
holiday.

Stuart Greenfield ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:15:23 EST
From: [e-mail] (Klaus P. Fechner)
Subject: Modem Woes (R)

"Joshua Hart -- A Forensic Chemist (to be) At Large!!!"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

 -----------------------------
Subject: (Q) Modem Woes

...
    When downloading anything of appreciable size, I get a few data-crc
errors, but zmodem does a retry and then gets everything fine. However 4
minutes into a file transfer I start to get errors every second. After 43 or
so
tries, Z-modem gives up and stops it's downloading.
    My question comes in as this: Am i experiencing some major ammounts of
line noise? If so, why did I never get the noise when downloading with a 2400
baud modem using the same computer/setup? Is there any way to improve the
quality of the connection? Something the phone company can do perhaps? I feel
like I'm grasping at straws. Helllp!

...
 -----------------------------

It's not line noise, I suspect from past experience with the similar setup
(SE):

The SE can't keep up with the incoming data, and the comm software can't
empty the buffer fast enough since the serial line interrupts take long to
process, especially if you have quite a few system extensions hogging CPU
power. Eventually the buffer fills up, and the comm software is too busy
processing all the data in the buffer so that the connection times out
instead of resynchronizing.

Someone on the net had actually reported a while back the exact predicted
time of failure under this scenario, assuming the serial buffer doesn't get
emptied at all (in which case it shouldn't take 4 to 5 minutes to fail,
though). Maybe someone can refresh us about the details.

My solution was to buy an accelerator for my good old SE, and now I can
happily download in the background at 14400 b/s, and even V.42bis
compressed data. I can also have an active TCP/IP SLIP connection running
in the background and do things such as mounting a floppy disk, switch
applications under virtual memory, or do other CPU intensive things,
without MacTCP croaking on me. This used to be a sure kiss of death before
I had the accelerator.

You won't need a fancy one, I got one from Mobius for $399, and there are
even cheaper ones out there by now.

Klaus

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:56:45 EST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: More on Apple's (Non) Use of FPUs in New Macs

In a previous infomac, Alan Hewat notes that Apple seems to be real confused
about putting FPUs in the newer Macs. I agree!! In particular, the
decision to leave the fpu behind on the desktop when you unplug the
portable part of the DUO computers, is just a crazy decision!! What an
oversight! If I need an FPU at my desk, then I need it on the road!!

Either leave the FPU out completely or take it along for the ride! This
design blunder is absolutely fatal for me; there is now NO WAY that I
could consider a DUO. (YES, I know about power consumption. It seems to
work out fine in the Powerbooks.)

This topic also goes to the old issue of "is apple deliberately cripppling
some of its computers"? Sadly, I think the answer is YES. Apple is not
offering more computer power for the $, instead there are introducing a
blizzard of new computers that are all incrementally "distinguishable"
on the basis of cpu clockrate, presence or absence of an FPU, and width
of the data bus. This is all marketing driven; there is no significant
savings in a $2000+ computer system in using, say, a 20 mhz 68030, instead
of a 25 mhz!

The best evidence that apple is crippling its new computers is that, as
has been widely discussed here, the SE/30 is much more capable than its
supposed replacements. Also, the soon-to-eliminated IIci is (I think)
still the best design that Apple has produced to date.

So, HARUMPH! I am starting to seriously think about Windows NT on an alpha,
which will be non-crippled hardware and on OS designed by Dave Cutler, who
hails from DEC; a company that knows about REAL computers, not crippled
consumer "niche" products.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:27:17 EST
From: [e-mail] (Robert M Coben)
Subject: Need help with an ImageWriter I

Remember the original ImageWriter printer? I have inherited one from
someone who had it connected to an Apple IIc, and in doing so had
changed the internal DIP switch settings to make it work with that system.

I'd like to connect it to my Mac+, but need to know what the proper switch
settings should be for the Mac. Anyone got any info about what the
correct settings are? Also, the interface on the printer looks
like an RS-232. Can I use a regular (for the Mac+) modem cable to connect
the printer port on the Mac to the printer, or do I need a special cable?

Please reply by e-mail. Thanks in advance.....

.....rob
--
.....rob coben, currently contracted to AT&T Bell Labs, [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:41:00 PST
From: [e-mail] (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Partitioning PB Hard Disk

I am considering  partitioning the 120 Meg Hard Disk in my PB. Is that
advisable? If yes: I happen to own Silver Lining -- does anybody have any
experience using it with the PowerBooks?

Thanks!
Herb K.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:03:36 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Shih-Tung Ngiam)
Subject: PowerPC with Taligent OS vs DEC Alpha with Windows NT

>My concern is the apparent neutering of Mac applications coming from
>Microsoft. Microsoft is developing for Windows first and the Mac second.
>They are developing only enough to stay competitive with other Mac
>vendors, while giving Windows products more significantly enhanced
>features than the Mac. A lot of us have too much money invested in
>Microsoft based office environments to switch over to other vendors.

   How well do the various MS applications really work with one another?
For individual applications, the various competing companies offer
competitive upgrades which might actually make it worthwhile to jump
ship.

   Is it just me, or are other people starting to get annoyed with the
non-Mac interface that Microsoft is starting to introduce in it's Mac
applications?  Those buttons in Excel are almost useless.  Is it really
better to squint at those tiny icons than to select items from a menu?

   With this kind of philosophy, Windows NT is going to have
half-a-screenful of button shortcuts, and spawn a whole new generation
of Windows Geeks competing to see who can memorise the locations of the
most buttons and click fastest with their eyes closed.

Shih Tung
Chem E
Best l'il Tech School
in Cambridge

------------------------------

Date: 15 Dec 92 12:43:08 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Ingemar Ragnemalm)
Subject: risk-ii.hqx

[e-mail] writes:

>Please post this file Risk_II.sit.hqx (repost) to your info-mac/game
>directory.

>The features of this version of Risk! (v2.50):

(Description of graphics enhancements deleted.)

This new item at Sumex is definitely worth commenting on. I have already
mailed the uploader, but since then, I have digged a little bit deeper and
came to the following conclusion:

THIS IS NOT A NEW VERSION!

This is version 2.40 that someone has put some new graphics into. There is
*no* reason to change the version number nor the name! (Besides, where did
the original author ever mention the word "freeware"?) Possibly, the name
could have been changed to "Risk 2.40 - hacked".

The new graphics are quite nice, and for that the ResEdit hacker that
did it should be acknowledged. However, this is *definitely* the wrong
way to distribute it. The new resource should have been put in a separate
file (possibly with some minimal installation program) and sent out as

Color Risk 2.40 *ALTERNATE GRAPHICS*.

Changing the name and version number of someone else's program and then
distribute it is not an acceptable move. It is rude to the author (who no
longer puts his name in the game, probably fearing that Parker will sue him),
but that is not the only problem. It almost scared me out of my Finder (or
pants), since this has happened *twice* during the last year (with Go-Moku
and Wesleyan Tetris) and in both these cases it was just to distribute a new
virus. Fortunately, this seems not to be the case here.

I have scanned Risk with ResCompare (by Michael Hecht - never used it before,
but it's a very good utility) and compared it with 2.40, and it seems to
be clean. ResCompare only reported differences in the graphics, so I think
we can safely use it.

My opinion is that the "2.50" version should be removed and replaced with
an original 2.40 copy plus the "alternate graphics" in a separate file.

--
Ingemar Ragnemalm
Dept. of Electrical Engineering      ...!uunet!mcvax!enea!rainier!ingemar
          ..
University of Linkoping, Sweden      [e-mail]


[I removed the file at the request of the submitter. He didn't intend to
 submit a hacked version. -Bill]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:13:15 GMT
From: Brian Jefferies <[e-mail]>
Subject: RTF Specs

There is ftp access to RTF specifications in the /pub/RTF
directory on host  indri.primate.wisc.edu
(Internet address 128.104.230.11).

This lot doesn't include info about Word formula code, which
is fairly transparent or embedded object code (which is not).

Would Microsoft like to post its documentation for the benefit of
humanity?

Brian Jefferies

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:55:39 GMT
From: Ben Fowler <[e-mail]>
Subject: Save As... operations under System 7, destination folder

Most of us have discovered that choosing "Save" from the file menu can mean
that a new file is saved in a folder not of our choosing. Generally
speaking it will be the last folder that that application has touched, and
can be the spell check or dictionary folder or the Stationery folder, or
even the Prefs folder. More understandably, but equally unhelpfully it will
be the folder in whose window the application icon resides, if one started
the application by double-clicking it in its open folder.

(Something I don't do, partly for this reason, but an action, or a shortcut
that is soon picked up by novices).

Think how many ways there are to start or to switch to an application under
a multi-tasking OS such as System 7. The possibilites for confusion are
very great.

Now, if you you start an application by double-clicking on a document, you
expect, when doing a "Save As" operation to be offered the existing
document's folder as the default.

A colleague tells me that under FreeHand (latest version, 3.1?), this is
not so. Since she only has system 7.0 because I installed it, and tells me
frequently how much better System 6 is, I feel certain qualms about this
situation.

Does anyone have any sensible comments or suggestions? I use Norton v2
Directory Assistance which helps considerably, but do not unreservedly
recommend it, as there are quite a number of applications which are not
fully compatible with it. I guess that they mess too much with the
SFPutFile dialogue.

Since the net effect is that files are distributed about one's disk like
confetti, this is a human interface issue and one that Apple might care to
look at between System 7.1 and 7.2.

[One thing that has always annoyed me greatly about System 7.x.x is that if
 you double-click on a document to open it and the application, and the
 application is "System-7 savvy" enough to use AppleEvents, then the default
 directory is NOT the folder with the document -- it is the folder with the
 application.

 Some applications don't do this. I presume they have been updated to change
 the default directory themselves. But the OS used to do this for the
 program.
 Is there any way to get this behavior back in my programs without writing to
 a system global, which I especially abhor? -Bill]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 20:19:22 -0800
From: [e-mail] (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: Self-extracting segmented archives

In IM #294 Richard Lim ([e-mail]) said:

>Are there any utilities out there which will segment a file in such a way
>that the files can be rejoined without the original application being
>present?
>
    StuffIt Lite & StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.3 (and later) allow you to create
multi-disk self-extracting archives.  Also, as has been mentioned before in
this (and other groups) StuffIt Deluxe compresses better than other products
and so you will use less disks.

    If you plan to distribute this segmented files as a form of installer,
you will also find the StuffIt archives are MUCH more flexible in this regard
allowing for full customization of icons, splash screens, and more.  They also
maintain information about the contents of archives (liek file icon locations
and folder information) not stored by other archivers.

[Disclaimer: I am one of the authors of StuffIt and work for the company that
developers/sells it, so I do have an interest ;)]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:09:56 -0500
From: Dave Cohn [703] 818-4516 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Software for 128K Mac

In a recent digest, someone was asking for software for a 128K Mac.  I've
poked around in my old software, and found the system software as well as
MacWrite and MacPaint from my 128K days.  If whoever it was will contact me
with your address, I will cheerfully send it all.  Just for grins, check out
these sizes:

System v2.0 = 79K
Finder (v2.0?) = 46K
MacWrite v4.5 =  69K
MacPaint v1.4 =  69K

Small enough that they're almost not worth compressing, no?

Nostalgically yours,

Dave Cohn

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:28:00 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Rick Sutcliffe)
Subject: StuffitDeluxe3.0.3

       StuffitDeluxe3.0.3
  I received my upgrade today and installed it.  Three comments:
1. The installer ought to remove outdated files from the system folder and
does not.  A person could end up with a large amount of junk that way.
2. There should be an option to install the Stuffit folder on a disk
(partition) different fronm the startup where the system stuff is.
3. The space saver menu has a choice to bring up the control panel.
Selecting this item produces a dialog box saying "Sorry, the original item
cannot be found"  This sounds like an alias problem.  Does anyone know what
is going on (before I trash this menu)
Running 7.0.1
16 Meg
Mac II fx
Now Menus and a ton of other inits.

Rick Sutcliffe

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:33:01 -0600
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Style and Desk Writers

Well, the difference.  I own a Stylewriter, have used a Deskwriter repeatedly,
and it basically comes down to speed.  The stylewriter has a resolution of
360 dpi, the deskwriter is 300, the deskwriter is about three times the size
of a stylewriter, about $100 dollars more (I'm basing that off of educator
prices) and about twice as fast. The standard ink for a deskwriter appears
(to me) to be darker and less smearable, but third party distribution for
the stylewriter should take care of that.
    Summary: the stylewriter is a bit higher resolution, a lot more
    compact
a bit cheaper and a lot slower.  It all depends on how you prioritize those
factors.  If speed is a concern, DeskWriter is the way to go.  If you have
very
little desk space, go with the stylewriter.

Eric Oehler
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:21 EST
From: E=MC^2 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stylewriter vs. HP Deskwriter (some answers)

To whomever it may concern:
The Stylewriter is slower *
The Deskwriter is more expensive
The Stylewriter has no multiple colors (black & white, and single color
refills)
The Deskwriter is a desktop printer
The Stylewriter is a 7.5 pound (4 pound without unnecessary sheet feeder)
    portable printer with no battery
The Stylewriter has slightly higher quality images than the Deskwriter (360 x
360 dpi vs. 300 x 300 dpi).
The Stylewriter's footprint is 5 inch by 12 inch
The Deskwriter is 20 inch by 12 inch footprint

Both come with envelope feaders
Both work on the same ink supply
Both are easy to unjam the paper
Both work on the same paper supply
Both have paper trays

* The Stylewriter comes free with a utility to print at the same time you edit
documents and run applications in the foreground.  This utility is called
PrintMonitor.  PrintMonitor may make the Stylewriter slightly faster in the
long run, by allowing you to continue editing the document.  However, I am
uncertain as to whether PrintMonitor works with the Deskwriter.  I know the US
$100 (estimate) SuperLaserSpool software effectively acts as a PrintMonitor
for the Deskwriter.

dpi - dots per inch

Metric conversion of inch is done by multiplying by 2.54 to receive number of
centimeters.

I am an owner of a Stylewriter, as the quality sounded better to me and the
opportunity to have a System 7 compatible PrintMonitor presented itself first
before SuperLaserSpool became System 7 compatible.  Also the portability of
the Stylewriter matters to me as I travel frequently with my computer.

If portability doesn't matter, the Deskwriter may be a better choice.

Good Luck

Sincerely,


ABRODY @ CLARKU

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:28:54 -0700
From: Dave Wagner <[e-mail]>
Subject: Sys 7.1 wctb resource layout?

Hi again,

   The normal window title bars -- those black horizontal
lines spaced a few pixels apart -- play havoc with the supertwist
display technology on my PB 160.  So I was playing with ResEdit and trying
to change the window colors.  My version of ResEdit is 2.1.1, which I think
is about the latest.

   Unfortunately, the WIND resource editor's idea of which wctb entries
correspond to which parts of the window (e.g., title bar foreground,
background, title text, etc) don't seem to be correct.  In particular,
if I create a brand new WIND resource, the corresponding wctb resource
that ResEdit creates has only 5 RBG entries, and I can't change certain
things (such as the color of those horizontal lines -- grrrr!)
But if I look in my system file's wctb #0, I find it has THIRTEEN
RGB entries.  If I play with these, I AM able to change just about everything,
but in a totally non-intuitive way and with much weird interaction between
the various entries.  The good news is that, for example, you can change the
colors of the scroll bar arrows, zoom box, close box, etc.
independently of other things.  If you get off on that sort of thing.

   So... does anyone have any documentation on how to customize your
window appearance on Sys 7.1?  I'll probably figure it out eventually,
but it will take a LOOOONG time.  I've seen an advert for
a commercial product that claims to be able to do all this, but I'm
trying to save myself the $50.  Believe me, though, if you've ever used
the grayscale PB displays, you'd know that it's worth the trouble!

   By the way, I've scanned through the "Inside Macintosh" books at the
local bookstores and I can't seem to find any documentation on this.
Perhaps in the new Sys 7 book?

        Dave Wagner
        [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:59:15 PST
From: "Cliff Mills" <[e-mail]>

To Whom It May Concern:

We wish to obtain the NCSA-telnet programs
for Macintosh and/or PC.  Could you please
advise us of some source for these.

Thank you for your assistance.

Didier Vanderveken/Cliff Mills

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:17:30 GMT
From: Ben Fowler <[e-mail]>

Internet Address: [e-mail]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:14:43 +0000
To: [e-mail]
From: [e-mail] (Ben Fowler)
Subject: SCSI Problem

The net has very kindly provided the solution to the gentleman whose disk
was replicating itself.

I have a similar but distinct problem.

For most of this morning, the external disk, from which we boot, has not
been mountable. The Mac IIx, therefore, shows the "Feed me" icon, and will
boot from a floppy.

Norton utilities shows the disk on its menu of disks to open. If you ask NU
to scan the SCSI bus then this external disk thereafter appears twice.

NU opens the disk, confirms that it is OK, and mounts it. This is no
guarantee that the machine will restart though.

The SCSI number is set to "4", as it should be. The other piece of
information that may be relevant is that the existing internal drive (it is
due for urgent replacement) is an 80 MByte QUANTUM P40S 940-40-94XX v7.9
which has failled due to stiction problems, and cannot be mounted because
it declares that there is no media.

Is this likely to be a faulty cable? Any other advice?

Ben Fowler,
Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed the serpent, and the poor serpent didn't have a
leg to stand on.

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 11:25:49 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Life is illusion.)

Sorry: this mail editor doesn't have a subject prompt...
this is regArding the Fax RDEV:
    The RDEV in question is probably the one bundled with the software
Quicklink/Fax II, a rather buggy piece of telecomm software.  The RDEV did
no print directly to fax, but rather made a document that could be loaded
into the software and transmitted on a fax modem.  It usually worked, as I
have found out, but not always, as I also found out ;).

Eric Oehler
[e-mail]

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