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- From: mnemonic@eff.org (Mike Godwin)
- Subject: Re: Fun things to do to RTM (was: Internet worm)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec15.193111.5505@eff.org>
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- References: <1992Dec11.160608.29674@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1992Dec13.055137.15759@eff.org> <1992Dec14.183858.22132@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:31:11 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec14.183858.22132@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
-
- >The point is that if someone is convicted of deliberate vehicular
- >homicide, the obvious situation is 'driving a vehicle', whether they
- >are a professional driver or not.
-
- Are you saying, then, that Morris should be barred from driving a car,
- since he doubtless used a car now and then to get to computer terminals
- at Cornell?
-
- >Whether Morris was part of
- >"the computer industry" isn't relevant.
-
- You were among those who defended the notion of keeping Morris from being
- hired in the computer industry. And it was you who talked about Morris's
- "position."
-
- > I have no problem with him
- >working in the computer industry -- as long as what he does has
- >nothing to do with doing anything on computers.
-
- What about telephone lines and leased lines? I understand that the
- Internet Worm propagated in this way too. Perhaps we should bar Morris
- from using the phone as well?
-
- You refer to "anything on computers" as if it were analytically obvious
- that "anything on computers" is connected with the Worm. But all sorts of
- uses of computers are pretty unconnected with writing and propagating a
- worm or virus. Should we bar Morris from writing the next Wordperfect
- or Excel or Procomm? Seems like a stupid thing to do, especially since
- there's no inherent connection between software development per se and
- the release and propagation of the Worm; lots of people do one without
- doing the other.
-
- Now, my mom, who's something of a computer illiterate, thinks all things
- having to do with computers are more or less connected, even though she is
- not so simplistic about cars or phones. The question is whether we adopt a
- simplistic view of computers or not. I think it would be a disservice to
- both the computer-using community and the legal community to do so.
-
- >I would also hardly
- >make this a lifetime ban, but I think a certain amount of "think about
- >it" time might be both useful and constructive in this kind of case.
-
- What is the source of your belief that Morris has had inadequate "think
- about it" time? He has shown no signs of recidivism thus far.
-
-
- --Mike
-
-
-
- --
- Mike Godwin, |"Everything one invents is true."
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