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- Path: sparky!uunet!world!pflaum
- From: pflaum@world.std.com (Greg M Pflaum)
- Subject: Re: Winsock available?
- In-Reply-To: John@Johns.FrontierTech.COM's message of 18 Dec 1992 19:37:08 GMT
- Message-ID: <PFLAUM.92Dec19233618@world.std.com>
- Sender: pflaum@world.std.com (Greg M Pflaum)
- Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
- References: <1gt994INNbnh@spool.mu.edu>
- Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:36:18 GMT
- Lines: 43
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- In article <1gt994INNbnh@spool.mu.edu> John@Johns.FrontierTech.COM (John F. Moehrke) writes:
-
- > We at Frontier Technologies have been shipping a Winsock compliant
- > TCP/IP kernel for over a year now. And in January will be shipping
- > the Windows Sockets Version 1.1 compliant version just approved
- > by the winsock committie.
-
- Let me guess... Marketing? It is disappointing to see Frontier join
- some other WinSock vendors in truth-stretching. Let's take a look at
- appendix C of the WinSock spec v1.1 draft 2:
-
- C. Background Information
-
- C.1 Origins of Windows Sockets
- The Windows Sockets project had its origins in a Birds Of A
- Feather session held at Interop '91 in San Jose on October
- 10, 1991. A committee was established, and an intensive
- debate via email resulted in the creation of a first draft
- specification, which was largely based on submissions from
- JSB and NetManage. This draft, and issues arising from it,
- were debated at a committee meeting hosted by Microsoft in
- Redmond, WA on December 9, 1991. Following further email
- discussions, a working group was established to develop the
- specification into its current form.
-
- The result of that work was the Windows Sockets spec, the first
- official version of which was v1.0 Rev.A, dated June 11, 1992. So,
- it would be very difficult to ship a "Winsock compliant TCP/IP kernel"
- over a year ago when the definition wasn't final until 6 months ago.
- (Of course, WinSock says nothing about _kernels_; it defines the API.)
-
- Frontier _was_ the first vendor I know of to ship WinSock, so there's
- hardly any need to exagerate the accomplishment. (Though I do prefer
- a revisionist history over another vendor who claimed for months to be
- shipping WinSock, though no one seems to have received it until much
- later.)
-
- Why am I so touchy about this? As an application vendor, I don't enjoy
- hearing my customers say "Why don't you support WinSock yet? I hear
- it's been shipping for over a year."
-
- Greg
-
-