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- From: act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Andrew Turner)
- Subject: Re: Windows for ... and TCP/IP -- problems GOT IT WRONG
- Message-ID: <1992Dec16.040640.12293@csc.canberra.edu.au>
- Sender: news@csc.canberra.edu.au
- Organization: University of Canberra
- References: <Bz966I.JAK@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> <1992Dec15.222450.10721@csc.canberra.edu.au>
- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 04:06:40 GMT
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- act@softserver.canberra.edu.au (Andrew Turner) writes - with misinfo:
-
- Whoooops, I posted an article off comp.protocols.nfs which was apparently
- not quite spot on. In an attempt to get into even deeper water(must lose
- my good samaritan hat you know |-( ) here is a followup from Sun that got
- lost in information overload. Anyway there goes my bandwidth quota for the
- rest of the century. BTW suggest backreading articles on comp.protocols.nfs
- from both the honourable Geoff Arnold and Larry Backman about this thorny
- issue. Humble pie for breakfast lunch and dinner ad nauseum
-
- 'Mihi crede, hoc mihi magis quam tibi nocet'
-
-
- Quoth iceman@sequent.com (Ian Evans) (in <1992Dec7.222331.21336@sequent.com>):
- #Quite a few people responded to my mail about this, so here's what
- #I have found.....
- #
- #The bottom line from both Sun and Microsoft is this:
-
- I don't know who you spoke with at Sun, but this description
- is inaccurate in almost every respect.
-
- #W4W introduced a new version of the protocol manager, version 2.1.
- #PC-NFS, and just about every other tcp/ip product that supports
- #NDIS, is compatible with version 1.x.
-
- NDIS is *NOT* the issue. Read the NDIS 1.1 and 2.1 specs. 2.1
- introduces some new features (e.g. dynamic bind/unbind) and
- clarifies some stuff, but a 1.1 stack can (and does) work
- over a 2.1 protocol manager and MAC.
-
- There are a number of incompatibilities between PC-NFS and W4W. On the
- PC-NFS side, we had to rework our emulation of the DOS Int21 5F02
- (GetRedirList) call - our original code was legal as defined by the DOS
- Tech.Ref, but W4W is picky and won't allow "gaps" in the index list.
- However there is also a bug in W4W (specifically in the W4WNET.DRV
- driver) which Microsoft has to fix. We've been working with MS on this,
- and our testing is substantially complete. (It would be unwise to infer
- from this that the fix is ready to be released, since it's possible
- that there are additional changes that MIcrosoft needs to make to
- W4WNET.DRV.)
-
- #Sun is aware of the bug and it's in their queue to fix. They did
- #not specifically state they were actively working on the fix or
- #when it would be available.
-
- OK, let me specifically state that we are actively working on a fix :-)
-
- There would be little point in our releasing a patch to PC-NFS until
- we've had a chance to test against the final version of W4WNET.DRV (and
- any other changes in W4W). As soon as both PC-NFS and W4W fixes are
- ready, we'll announce the fact.
-
- #So for W4W to work with PC-NFS Sun needs to patch/upgrade their
- #NDIS driver to support version 2.1 of protman.dos (version 1.1 is
- #called protman.sys).
-
- As I noted above, this is actually incorrect. Notwithstanding this,
- I expect that our patch may include a new NFS-NDIS.SYS anyway, since
- I've made a couple of fixes that will improve multiple stack
- coexistence.
-
- Geoff
-
- PS For obvious reasons, I usually prefer not to go into this level of
- detail about multivendor problems in a public forum such as this - it
- tends to obscure/obstruct/cloud the issues we're trying to solve - but
- I felt that it was important to set the record straight. While it would
- obviously have been preferable if these incompatibilities could have
- been resolved during W4W beta testing, I would like to emphasize that
- we've had excellent cooperation with Microsoft in working on the
- resolution of the matter. No finger pointing please; we'll get things
- fixed as quickly as we can.
-
- --
- Geoff Arnold, PC-NFS architect, Sun Select. (geoff.arnold@East.Sun.COM)
- ADMINISTRIVIA==========ADMINISTRIVIA=====ADMINISTRIVIA==========ADMINISTRIVIA
- New address: SunSelect, 2 Elizabeth Drive, Chelmsford, MA 01824-4195
- New numbers: Phone: 508-442-0317 FAX: 508-250-5068
-
-
-
- --
- Renrut Werdna Probable-Possible, my black hen,
- She lays eggs in the Relative When.
- She doesn't lay eggs in the Positive Now
- act@ss.canberra.edu.au Because she's unable to postulate how
-