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- From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
- Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
- Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
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- Date: 15 Dec 92 21:06:33 GMT
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- Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
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- In article <BzBBMJ.4xp.2@cs.cmu.edu> Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:
- >stanley@skyking.oce.orst.edu writes:
- > >Then my boss isn't really in charge of the machines at my site, because he
- > >has to go through one of the sysadmins to make a configuration change?
-
- No, I certainly did not write this.
-
- >Your attitude is insulting to the many sysadmins out there who
- >voluntarily support domains requiring MX support.
-
- My "attitude" is that those people who voluntarily provide support by
- providing MX records do not automatically come under my control just
- because they are providing an MX record for me. Period.
-
- Since they are not under my control, I am not "in charge" of them, in
- the same sense that the "boss" referred to by the true author of the
- above quote is. If they have two things to do late Friday afternoon,
- and one of them isn't making a change in my DNS information, I am in no
- position to demand that the one thing they have time to do will be
- mine.
-
- >Anyone who ran such a domain and needed updates simply mailed me the
- >update, and I didn't do anything more than check it quickly for
- >outright errors so my nameservers wouldn't choke on it. Installation
- >of the updates was usually done within the day.
-
- Did you consider yourself to be under the control of the sites who
- connected to you? Were THEY in charge of your nameserver, or were you?
- Consider what you did with changes that had errors -- did you make them
- or did you refuse? And when you refused, were any of your sites able to
- overturn your refusal? Then they weren't in charge, were they?
-
- >It is singularly inappropriate for you to be accusing others of taking
- >the low road of personal insult when you are quite possibly doing more
- >of the same, obtusely and without direct reference, than the rest of
- >the participants in this pointless argument combined.
-
- I have accused no admin of any wrongdoing. Show me where I have. Don't
- tell me about what you inferred or thought I said -- tell me where I
- said it.
-
- >Yes, when you are the domain contact of an MX-supported domain, you
- >_are_ in charge of the zone file for your domain,
-
- I am not the domain contact, thus not in charge. I doubt that I am the
- only site like this. If I am unable to force a change to the zone file,
- then I certainly am not in charge of that file.
-
- >and the sysadmin who
- >actually manages the nameservers that support your domain has a quite
- >obvious and clear responsibility to be responsive to your needs for
- >updates.
-
- In my case, yes, because I pay for him to do it. In the case of
- Random.uucp who gets a free connection from Arbitrary.edu, the "obvious
- and clear responsibility" is not so obvious and clear. It becomes even
- less so when the feed is arbitrary.com.
-
- >If you're going to be insulting,
-
- Conditional clause not fulfilled, remainder of paragraph deleted.
-