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- From: takefuji@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Yoshiyasu Takefuji)
- Newsgroups: comp.internet.library
- Subject: Re: A question on Internet Resources
- Date: 16 Dec 1992 05:08:27 GMT
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- From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
- Subject: Re: A question on Internet Resources
- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:23:28 GMT
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- takefuji@donald.EEAP.CWRU.Edu (Yoshiyasu Takefuji) writes:
-
- > >>>>> Why are most Internet resources provided free? <<<<<
-
- (1) There's no mechanism for charging --- yet. If you're really
- interested in this, you might try subscribing to the mailing lists
- devoted to the commercialization and privatization of the Internet.
- There's been discussion of how to set up such a mechanism, but there's
- not an "Internet Gold Card" yet and taking Visa or MasterCard has its
- own problems.
-
- But many of the new internet utilities like WAIS and Gopher are
- beginning to show a charge field, even though the charge field is set to
- 0.00 ... so far.
-
- (2) User interfaces are awful. I've spent some time fishing around with
- telnet, ftp, and even gopher and I'd be very reluctant to pay money for
- most resources out there. Gopher can do a pretty good job if the people
- on the "backside" do some work. Without any compensation, not even
- recognition (it's hard to know who's done the work with most resources),
- it's hard to justify spending the time necessary to massage data into
- proper shape.
-
- ftp shows you only as much as the "ls" command will tell you, so you
- have to transfer something to find out what it is. wuarchive.wustl.edu
- or UUNET have multi-megabyte lists of what they have, but it's pretty
- much just filename, size, and date. And on a smaller scale, this is
- pretty much true of all the other ftp sites.
-
- For modem or ASCII terminal users, WAIS and WWW are terribly confusing.
-
- (3) The restrictions on commercial use of the internet discourage people
- from providing commercial resources. But the wall is gradually being
- chipped away. misc.jobs.offered is becoming more and more a place where
- recruiting firms and personnel offices post ads. In the past, it'd been
- primarily the engineer who'd be working across the hall from the
- new-hire who'd been posting these ads. Some people still do, but I'd be
- interested to see how the proportion of financially interested people
- (recruiters on commission or personnel people doing their jobs) has
- increased in the past few years.
-
- I think that there'll be a real incentive to provide certain resources
- for free, because people will use them to order. A record store that
- had an extensive database of CDs available online would get a lot of
- orders from people if they could say "now that you've found XYZ, why
- don't you go ahead and order it by hitting "O" and then giving us your
- credit card number."
-
- Some resources will be exotic enough, complicated enough, or have enough
- "pull" that people will be happy (or resigned) to pay for them.
- Whatever the charges, it's usually less than going to the library and/or
- typing it in by hand.
-
- I can understand the limitations of the Acceptable Use Policy, and to a
- large degree I think they're fair: if I'm using college facilities to
- conduct a business, then to some degree the college is subsidizing me,
- even if nobody else would be using that phone line or those bits on the
- hard disk. And it's not right that my business use deprives someone who
- needs them. But most colleges or companies will allow use of the phone
- to call Mom --- if you pay for it. You can use the photocopier down the
- hall to make copies of your novel --- if you pay for it.
-
- The AUP needs to be pushed down to institutional level. If Jo Blow
- can't use her computer for her outside work at Old U., she may decide to
- take that job at Miskatonic. Let the institution decide what they'll do
- with their bandwidth. Let the NSF people concentrate on making sure
- there's enough bandwidth.
-
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