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- Subject: (Fwd: *C&CD*) RE: RE: But what can we isolated YouEssers do? (3)
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- Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:55:54 EST
- From: IN%"RobertRoyar@Delphi.COM" Robert Royar, (C&CD Moderator)
- Message-id: <1992Dec15.045554.v7.046.1.Grendel.Lair@Cratylus>
- Subject: RE: RE: But what can we isolated YouEssers do? (3)
- Reply-to: "Computers & Composition Digest (R. Royar)" <R0MILL01@ULKYVX.BITNET>
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- I still don't think anyone has dealt with the problem I posed which was NOT
- that there aren't adequate speaking communities of non-English language in
- the US, BUT that these are not NATIONAL entities whose languages are kept
- alive and made public. There are for example large numbers of Vietnamese
- living in France, yet I doubt many French citizens without Vietnamese
- ancestry speak the Vietnamese language. One need only look at the
- GastArbeiten uproar in Germany to see how well much of Europe tolerates
- cultural diversity.
-
- A further interesting irony can be seen in Japan.
-
- An article in _Science_ (sometime in Feb. 1992) described the problem of
- Japanese manufacturing and r&d which is having some trouble (about like the
- US 10 years ago) keeping/getting skilled workers and research specialists.
- In fact the article described how so many young Japanese college students
- are going into business, marketing, and finance--because of the highh and
- quick payoffs--that the sciences and technical areas (engineering etc.) are
- having difficulty finding new workers. This happened in the US when
- business schools were riding high and the Stock Market was a real
- quick-wealth arena. We're still paying a price for it. It now seems to be
- happening in Japan.
-
- One way the US was able to replace some of the lost "new blood" was by
- employing young, foreign college graduates. Japan for the first time since
- before WW II has begun to attively attract foreign students from the far
- east into the engineering and science programs--educating and training them
- to take jobs in Japanese industry and r&d. The primary curriculum is
- offered not in Japanese but in English.
-
- There are three points I'd like to emphasize:
-
- * I'm not arguing for English language supremacy, just that the perception
- that we're doomed if we're not multi-lingual is not based on what's
- actually happening in the supposedly "advanced" countries of this planet
- and
-
- * economic factors that make the US look like a failed experiment in
- individual indulgence are hitting the rest of the world (albeit a few
- years later than here), so to see the decline of capitalism as a US
- phenom is to miss the point of what's going on in the supposed NEW
- economic powerhouses of Germany and Japan (BTW both were already
- industrial nations prior to WW II), and
-
- * anti-american snobbery has been a Europaschian pasttime since before the
- English coined the term "Yankee"--a buffoon and all-around jerk. I mean
- "why squander such wealth on the 'dregs' of society anyway?" has been the
- attitude for almost 400 years.
-
- So back to my original question. In a country as geographically vast as
- this, how do we get the majority of citizens (regardless of ethnic/national
- heritage) to learn and practice a second language? We don't have the
- opportunities on the scale that people in European or other nations have for
- real second-language interaction (see Nancy Duke S. Lay. "Learning from
- Natural Language Labs". _JBW_ 11.2 Fall 1992).
-
- -- Robert Royar (RobertRoyar@Delphi.com) New York Institute of Technology
- "If the Russians can get rid of the Communists, the Americans can get rid
- of the Republicans." - Rudy Rucker
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