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- From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
- Newsgroups: comp.arch
- Subject: Re: Any new instructions in a i486?
- Message-ID: <9212200017.12@rmkhome.UUCP>
- Date: 20 Dec 92 05:17:09 GMT
- References: <WAYNE.92Dec11164422@backbone.uucp> <9212130000.AA05447@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> <PCG.92Dec19162224@decb.aber.ac.uk>
- Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
- Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
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- In article <PCG.92Dec19162224@decb.aber.ac.uk> pcg@aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) writes:
- >On 13 Dec 92 05:00:19 GMT, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) said:
- >
- >(somebody)> NeXTStep is said to not run on the Cyrix 486 chips because
- >(somebody)> "they are not real 486's". No one has come up with a
- >(somebody)> reliable reason _why_ NeXT doesn't think they are "real
- >(somebody)> 486's" or why NeXTStep won't run on them.
- >
- >The most probable reason seen so far is that there are some small
- >supervisor state differences between the Cyrix and the Intel part. If
- >so, I would venture that it is about enabling (and then flushing at the
- >right moment) the cache on the Cyrix. It is not necessary to do so, but
- >if one does not (and one has to do so on most old 386-like motherboards
- >on which the Cyrix part is usually mounted) then performance is little
- >better than with a 386.
- >
- >johnl> I don't have any real data, but I expect the problem is that the
- >johnl> Cyrix chip doesn't have a floating point unit.
- >
- >No, this cannot be the reason. As a rule the Cyrix 486DLC CPU chip is
- >sold with the Cyrix Fasmath (a 387) coprocessor, the combo being touted
- >quite reasonably as a 486DX equivalent.
- >
- >Moreover NeXTStep is said to run on the 486SX Intel chips, and those
- >don't have a corprocessor either.
- >
- >FUD, FUD. Ah Intel, Intel. :-)
-
-
- I don't see where this has anything to do with Intel. Cyrix decided that
- they could make some money by cloning a best selling CPU chip. Obviously,
- they have missed something. A curious individual with a 486DLC system, a
- 486DX system, two logic analyzers, and two NeXTStep bootdisks should be
- able to track down the problem.
-
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- Rick Kelly rmk@rmkhome.UUCP unixland!rmkhome!rmk rmk@frog.UUCP
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