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- From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
- Subject: Re: yes or no? (bot deopping)
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- Organization: Actuarial Science Program at UIUC
- Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:57:38 GMT
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- dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
-
- [A very good article (IMO) that really should be sent to ircd-three....]
-
- >My proposal:
- > No bans. No opping people. +i, s, t, n, p all still in effect, able to
- > be changed by anybody on the channel.
- > Anybody on the channel can 'kick', but all the kick will do is do a
- > server-level ignore on that person. So I kick you, and it keeps ME
- > and only ME from seeing you. Perhaps if 1/2 or more of the people on
- > the channel kick a single person it ought to become 'real' ...
- [...]
- >These changes would do several things:
- > 1) reduce the bandwidth used by IRC. (fewer mode changes ...)
-
- Actually, I think that doing away with channel ops, and making mode changes
- accessible to everyone might actually *increase* the number of mode changes.
- I can already see the #hot* crowd having /mode +istnp and /mode -istnp
- fests.
-
- How about going to a one channel/one op scheme, where the channel creator
- is the channel op? Sie can pass opship to one person, but deops hirself
- in the process. Yes, it could still be abused, but I think it might have
- a better shot at reducing IRC bandwidth.
-
- Also, do we still need channel topics? It seems to me that bandwidth could
- further be reduced by doing away with topics, thereby eliminating the
- ever-popular sport of topic wars.
-
- The /kick idea is interesting, but I'm not completely fond of it. An
- alternative (in the one chan-op scheme especially) would be to give /kick
- a few more teeth -- add an automatic ban as an after-effect of a kick.
- Possibly /kick would then be abused less often, since it would take more
- work to undo a /kick.
-
- > Leave /kill in, as it DOES have it's uses. But make it kill yourself
- > too, so people will only use it when it's really needed. Also, add a
- > K-line for 60 seconds on anybody killed, both the killer and the kilee.
- > This will make it a bit more inconvienient to kill and be killed.
-
- Oooooooh! Evil! I *like* it! But will it play in Peoria?
-
- >I don't promise that these ideas are perfect, or foolproof, or a panacea for
- >IRC. But they strike me as something to consider ...
-
- Ditto that.
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