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- From: grjost@uts.amdahl.com (Garrett Jost)
- Newsgroups: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.security.misc,alt.privacy
- Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystroke monitoring
- Message-ID: <e6TZ03sdc2.200@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>
- Date: 12 Dec 92 08:57:08 GMT
- References: <1992Dec10.163250.9286@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1992Dec10.175858.7486@netcom.com> <q50qgdg@dixie.com> <1992Dec11.164849.3491@nic.csu.net>
- Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
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- oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu writes:
-
- >In article <q50qgdg@dixie.com> jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
- >>strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
- >>
- >>>The notion that people should be warned about monitoring, when it
- >>>is done legally, is a fundamental civil liberties notion. It is
- >>>in the same class as "fair warnings" of many other kinds.
- >>
- >>Damn straight. If Jerk-eeee doesn't want his keystrokes monitored, his
- >>option is to own his own machine. If he is a guest on someone else's machine
- >>or is on his employer's or institution's machine, he plays by their
- >>rules or does not play. Nothing difficult to understand about that.
- >>
-
- >Huh? If I work for company X, X automatically has full rights to read
- >my mail or search my home? Or maybe only if it officially warns me
- >about this on it's front entrance? :).
-
- Maybe his e-mail, but not his home. John was saying that anything that
- you use that is owned by your company may be monitored by them. Hey, my
- company did not say when I hired in that I can e-mail all my friends and
- expect 100% privacy. It's their computers: they can do what they want,
- and if I don't like it, then I don't use their machines!
-
- They also have the right to search my office, since it's actually theirs!
- But they don't have the right to search my apartment: it's mine.
-
- Some of you guys treat your computer access given to you as if it was
- guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution. Wake up guys: it's not!
-
- Personally, I would feel uneasy about using a computer that was always
- monitored. But then again, I could always not use it. And if it worried
- me enough, I would find another job.
-
- --
- Garrett
-
- "These are my opinions and do not necessarily represent the opinions of my
- employer."
-