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- From: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Subject: Re: CERT and the Dept. of Justice on keystroke monitoring
- In-Reply-To: charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Charles Geyer)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec11.235142.3072@nntp.hut.fi>
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- Reply-To: jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala)
- Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
- References: <1992Dec8.041023.4125@eff.org> <1992Dec10.025308.14768@nntp.hut.fi> <1992Dec10.094119.24516@netcom.com> <1992Dec10.163250.9286@news2.cis.umn.edu>
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:51:42 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec10.163250.9286@news2.cis.umn.edu>, charlie@umnstat (Charles Geyer) writes:
- >Not precisely accurate. What the posting from CERT said was that it's
- >not clear what the hell the law is (typical!) and God only knows what
- >a court would say (figures!) so if you want to COVER YOUR ASS you better
- >put such a notice in your motd if you even want to daydream about catching
- >hackers.
-
- That seems like a reasonable summary of what the notice appears to say
- and aim at, but if nothing more it is a real side effect that the
- recommended login banner makes all the users subject to every kind of
- surveillance with no valid complaints.
-
- If you turn the paranoia knob clockwise, what you get is a login
- banner designed to get consent to any surveillance from each and every
- user by using "computer security" and "intruders" as smoke & mirrors.
-
- //Jyrki
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