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- From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
- Subject: [alt.censorship] Re: I've just been repremanded by net.big.brother
- Message-ID: <Bz45r8.Hs1@cs.uiuc.edu>
- Followup-To: alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,alt.censorship
- Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:16:20 GMT
- Lines: 81
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- [A repost - Carl]
-
- Newsgroups: alt.censorship
- From: aker@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Les Aker)
- Subject: Re: I've just been repremanded by net.big.brother
- Message-ID: <Bz3wCL.8CL@ra.nrl.navy.mil>
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:53:08 GMT
-
- In article <1992Dec11.155303.5068@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> awells@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Andrew V. Wells) writes:
- >I just received this scolding from a net official at my
- >university:
- >
- >>From XXXXXX Thu Dec 10 20:37:25 1992
- >>Subject: language on internet
- >>To: awells (Andrew V. Wells)
- >>Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 EST
- >>From:XXXXXXXXXXX
- >>Andy,
- >> It has come to my attention that a number of complaints have
- >>been posted and mailed to Northeastern relative the the content of some
- >>recent postings to the internet from your account. While neither DAC or
- >>the University have any intention of restricting free speech, there are
- >>standards for reasonable conduct. Obscenities and name calling reflect
- >>badly on this University especially in a world wide forum. In the
- >>future, please refrain from using such offensive language; it
- >>contributes nothing to any kind of discussion.
- >>Thank you.
- >>XXXXXXXXXXXX
- >>A net official
- >------------------End of letter-------------------------
- >
- >Doesn't this constitute a subtle form of censorship? I've always
- >thought that what are pejoratively refered to as "obscenities"
- >can be a valid expression of anger and revulsion, given what a
- >#$%*&!!#$@& world we live in. There have also been attacks on
- >the use of "obscenities" in Rap music, with the thought police
- >wanting to put "parental advisory" stickers on the albums. This
- >is indeed a real and clever form of censorship, as many of the
- >owners of large-chain shopping malls [mauls?], (where most people
- >buy their cassettes and CD's) have threatened to shut down
- >record stores that sell music with "parental advisory" stickers.
- >One of the big players in this censorship campaign is none other
- >than Tipper Gore. I just wonder, after Jan. 20th, whether
- >we're going to start seeing warning labels slapped on
- >terminals all across the country warning people about such
- >excellent groups as talk.bizarre. The scary thing is that
- >the real powerhouses behind all of this are not just people
- >like tipper gore, but ultra-right wing fanatic religous
- >fronts with Orwellian names such as the "American Family
- >Association."
- > andy wells
- > ///\\\ awells@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu
- > \\\\ //// andyphys@nuhub.northeastern.edu
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------
- Andy,
-
- I think that you took a big leap from being asked, relatively
- nicely, by the university to tone down your language a little.
- The request doesn't have any relationship to labelling music,
- Tipper Gore, or far out groups like the American Family
- Association, in my opinion.
-
- I believe that the university has an obligation to expect an
- observance of reasonable conduct, & isn't guity of censorship
- by making this request of you. If you disagree with the
- request, then I believe that the proper course is to take up
- the matter with university officials responsible for computing
- resources. They should be practicing the same policies for
- all users, & have a set of guidelines for you debate with them.
-
-
-
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