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- From: jam+@cs.cmu.edu (Joe Mattis)
- Newsgroups: soc.women
- Subject: Re: Cold Marriage
- Keywords: Marriage
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- Date: 23 Nov 92 22:35:42 GMT
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- In article <By21JL.MA2@NeoSoft.com> martink@NeoSoft.com (Martin Koistinen) writes:
- > My wife regards intimicy in general as a very uncomfortable
- >feeling. [...] When we first met we had a VERY active sex-life [...]
-
- Perhaps your wife believes that, once people become heavily invested in
- their relationship, they are no longer supposed to be intimate. Of course,
- you don't believe this.
-
- >I told her
- >that I'd like her and I to see a marriage counselor. She cried
- >and drew up parallels between our's and her previous marriage
- >thinking that we were now one step closer to divorce.
-
- Of course, she is right. The question is, does she want to do something
- about it, or is she going to let the same thing happen again?
-
- >She asks me "why
- >can't you just KNOW that I love you and leave it at that?"
-
- Well, you probably *do* know that intellectually, but so what? You need
- more than just *knowing*...you need to be touched, and held, and whispered
- to. You need physical intimacy, and without it you're miserable. Her
- question of "why?" is irrelevant...whatever the reason, you need physical
- intimacy just like you need food, water, and companionship.
-
- She used to be physically intimate with you, and you had a *right* to expect
- that to continue after you married her. *She* is the one who changed, not
- you, and by doing so *she* has morally broken her marriage vow to you.
-
- >[...] She [has] this cute child like mood that I am really fond of [...] we
- >have NEVER-EVER engaged in romance/sex during her cute mood. [...]
-
- I think there is something very complex going on inside her head.
-
- >I love her very much. I want our relationship to work. I
- >want us to have a happy, successful marriage.
-
- Does she also want this? If so, she must be prepared to work VERY HARD for
- a LONG TIME on it. She must decide if the marriage is worth it to her.
- I can't imagine the marriage suceeding without professional help, involving
- both joint consuling and private therapy sessions.
-
- And of course, this ordeal will be no walk in the park for you, either.
- But from what you've said, it sounds like you've already decided that it
- would be worth it to you.
-
- >I vowed to her that I'd never leave her [...]
-
- No...you made that vow to somebody who is no longer there. You didn't promise
- the stranger you're living with *anything*. But if you eventually need to
- assert that, make sure that you protect yourself legally.
-
- -Joe Mattis ARPA: jam@isl1.ri.cmu.edu
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