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- From: Terry.Parks@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Parks)
- Subject: Re: Racist/Sexist Role Models
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- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:26:11 GMT
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- >>Many colleges provide special preferred academic treatment for Blaks.
- >
- >Actually, they've been providing special treatment for Whites for a long
- >time. This is evidenced by the fact that one college officer obviously
- >can't even spell the color "Black"
-
- I was not refering to the color black but to the race Blak.
-
- >and doesn't know enough to call Americans
- >of African descent by their proper name, i.e. African Americans.
-
- Such special preferred treatment is restricted on the basis of race,
- not national origin, hence the appropriate racial reference.
-
- >>These include lower admission standards (in effect, adding points to SAT
- >>scores, etc.),
- >
- >Actually, the same is done for men, since the raw SATs are higher
- >for women than for men. Men systematically have their scores raised
- >a couple points.
-
- Really? At schools like MIT it's harder for equally qualified women
- to gain acceptance? That's not what the MIT admissions office states.
-
-
-
- >> tutoring, mentoring, organization memberships, which are
- >>denied Caucasian students.
-
- >Actually, at Cornell, where I went to school, there were a number of
- >organizations which were extremely race, gender and even religion
- >restricted which provided tutoring, mentoring and files full of
- >old exams and problem sets for most courses. These were known as
- >FRATERNATIES.
-
- Sorry, no sale. I'm sure that there are some people who buy the
- argument that it's okay to discriminate on the basis of gender or
- race if it can be alleged that someone else is doing it but not me.
-
- >Since they are private organizations, they are actually
- >extremely restrictive. The same goes for secret societies, such as
- >George Bush's at Yale. Also recall that there was a quota here at
- >Harvard for Jewish students until the 60's,
-
- Hey, I don't care if your primary care giver can beat up my primary
- care giver, I'm not going to buy the notion that the solution to
- gender/race discrimination is more gender/race discrimination.
-
- >which is why Boston
- >University exists (it was started because top students who happened
- >to be Jewish would have a harder time gaining admission to Harvard
- >because of these quotas) and for a long time there were no Jewish
- >faculty here. In essence, with more strict admissions policies
- >being applied to women and Jews at Harvard/Radcliffe, logic dictates
- >that the admissions standards have always been lower for WASP men
- >here. Men like yourself.
-
- Excuse me, I don't ever recalling you gazing at my genitals. Would
- you happen to be one of those feableminded sexists who can't comprehend
- the notion of a woman opposing sexism rather that joining her
- place in the dole line of the many restricted to females benefits.
-
- >Of course, even with all of that extra
- >help, some WASP men still wind up at state schools. Men like yourself.
- >
- >
- >> Perhaps you didn't realize such advantages
- >>made available to you were race restricted.
- >
- >Perhaps you didn't realize such advantages
- >made available to you were race restricted.
-
- Could you name ten advantages made available on the basis of race to
- WASPs (Caucasians)? Five? Any? Come on, at least you could make some
- up for us.
-
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