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- Subject: Re: Was Clinton's victory America's message to the Anti-Choice?
- Message-ID: <1992Nov18.152714.7722@nmsu.edu>
- Organization: New Mexico State University
- Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:27:14 GMT
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- In article <Bxqsvz.6Dv@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
- >In article <DSTEINBE.92Nov12082825@grace.nmsu.edu> dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg) writes:
- ( >>=me >=Scott W Roby)
- >>I would hope so. Lowered taxes and little spending is a cornerstone
- >>of the Libertarian Party...
- >
- >The Libertarian Party is for little or no taxes for EVERYONE, as I understand
- >it. That is NOT the idea behind trickle-down economics(T-D E). In T-D E,
- >the idea is to give as many tax breaks as possible to the RICH, so that they
- >will naturally and nobly invest in more business and jobs. They didn't, and
- >T-D E failed as method of promoting employment.
- >
- >Spending is separate from T-D E, IMHO. And besides, Republicans are quite
- >good at spending -- look at Reagan's defense budget and his deficit.
- >Although I think Democrats have abandoned their old habits of "tax and spend",
- O.K., we have different def.'s of T-D-E. I always thought it meant
- that if you lower taxes in general (including those on the rich) then
- the economy will improve...
-
- >I must still admit that it makes more fiscal sense than "DON'T tax and spend",
- >which is what Reagan did -- hence our deficit.
- >
- >You'll have to do better to convince me that the Libertarians are for T-D E.
- Again, different def.'s Perhaps you're right. I'm not a huge fan of
- the Repub.'s; it wouldn't suprise me if I got their propagandra wrong...
-
- (Stuff deleted)
- >
- >I don't see the connection. Bush has been fairly strong on Capital
- >Gains tax cuts, which is more T-D E, consistent with Reagan. I don't
- >think that single tax increase had profound effects, except for Bush's
- >credibility on campaign promises.
-
- You could be right, but economics is much more of a religion than a
- science. You believe in your liberalism, I'll believe in my
- libertarianism, and we should both be able to find economists who
- agree with us...
- >
- > [initial discussion of my examples of 80's Republican rhetoric deleted]
- >
- >> >I also particularly like your method of argument. Proof by saying
- >> >"(yeah, right)". I wonder if me real analysis prof. will let me get
- >> >away with that...
- >
- >> Well, I stated each position in a such way that the average reader
- >> would see why they are pretty silly positions. I find most of
- >> these positions as indefensible to start with, and therefore not in
- >> need of serious refutation. A simple, sarcastic "yeah, right." is all they
- >> are worthy of.
- >
- >>No, you stated the positions in ways that the average person who
- >>didn't agree with them would feel was stupid.
- >
- >Hmmm... Yeah, you're right... (no sarcasm here)
- >I was definitely writing to the already converted, wasn't I?
- >Oh, well. I hope someone enjoyed it.
-
- Ah, glad you agree :@)
-
- >
- >>Being a somewhat
- >>critical reader, I translated back from what you said that they said,
- >>to what they actually did say.
- >
- >Well, If you can make any of those issues I mentioned sound worthy
- >of defending, I will be willing to try to give them serious argument.
- >I didn't state them in a positive light, because I don't see them
- >as positive things. Good luck.
- >
- Maybe, but I don't know if these newsgroups are the forum to do so...
- E-mail maybe?
-
- (me beating a dead horse deleted)
- >
- >I know what you mean. I'm willing to seriously tackle any of the issues
- >I raised if you want to present them in a serious and advantageous light.
- >I should also warn you that I am no political or financial expert, so
- >you may find my arguments lacking in details.
- >
- >Of course, maybe we can both spend our times more wisely on other things,
- >since these Republican administrative positions are going to be academic
- >for at least four years. :-)
- That's true. Who's to say change is bad. I'm sick of mocking
- Republicans; let's mock Democrats now :@)
-
- >--
- >Scott W. Roby *This sentence no verb.* "No Matter where you go..
- -David "ZZYZX" Steinberg- King of the ellipses
- (dsteinbe@emmy.nmsu.edu)
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