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- From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
- Newsgroups: soc.women,alt.feminism,soc.men
- Subject: Re: Elle MacPherson causes rape?
- Date: 18 Nov 92 11:44:44
- Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
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- In-reply-to: jsp@uts.amdahl.com's message of 18 Nov 92 18:41:04 GMT
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- In article <142V03FNbcnn00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston) writes:
- >gwangung@byron.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
-
- >}In article <c2Fx03hvbbTp00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> jsp@pls.amdahl.com writes:
- >}>This is great. The same people who don't like being judged based solely
- >}>on their looks are now judging someone based solely on what is hanging
- >}>on his wall. Yeah, yeah, I know; what *you're* doing is difference
- >}>because you're claiming to judge "personality" while those evil men
- >}>are merely judging physical attributes.
-
- >} Big difference in my book.
-
- >Ok, so explain this difference.
-
- Well, I don't know what Roger sees as the difference. The way I see it,
- it is much easier for a person to develop and change their personality
- than it is for them to change their looks (which they are basically born
- with). When I'm spending time with them, I can only get something out
- of looking at them for so long. However, with a good personality, we
- can have endless conversations. Finally, I find that after I get to
- know them, I tend to enjoy looking at a person whose personality I like,
- regardless of how physically beautiful they are, while I have never
- found myself liking someone's personality because of their looks. After
- a little while, the personality clashes with anyone become obvious, and
- good looks are not enough to make up for serious clashes.
-
- So, assuming that I found such a calendar offensive, and I met a person
- who displayed one, I would have a fairly good idea that, no matter how
- good-looking that person was, I would eventually not enjoy being around
- them. Note that this is very simplistic, and I don't really think you
- can decide on the basis of one feature that you will not get along with
- someone. If I was interested in the person, I would still try to get to
- know them even if I was offended by some calendar they had, since we
- might get along perfectly well in general. Of course, I *don't* object
- to these calendars; someone who objected very strongly might feel that
- this one point of serious disagreement was sufficient.
-
- Muffy
-
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- Muffy Barkocy muffy@mica.berkeley.edu
- ~Weavers' fingers flying on the loom/patterns shift too fast to be
- discerned/all these years of thinking/ended up like this/in front
- of all this beauty/understanding nothing~ - Bruce Cockburn
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